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Python trademark at risk in Europe

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Re: Python trademark at risk in Europe

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Post by craftman »

anigbrowl wrote: post #54

This is a prime example of why you have to vigorously police and defend a trade mark in order to reap the benefits from it. People complain when a large company does it to a small one, but if they don't they can easily find themselves in a situation like this.

It is the sad truth of the current trademark/patent system.

I am currently creating my own product, and the very first thing I made was to create a new name, and claim the mark. It cost me some money, but not that much compared to the risk of being in trouble with trolls.

The sad things is that by doing this, I am probably feeding the complexity of the system myself.

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Post by VanL »

malkarouri wrote: post #59

I did an RHCE exam in 2003, in their place in Surrey (Guildford IIRC). I am pretty sure that Red Hat is a long time user and has been using Python to mean the language in their software and documentation in the UK a long time ago. Can you contact Red Hat or users of their software of exams for the last twenty years to confirm that? I imagine they would be happy to help.

Great idea - will do.

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Post by jychang »

maigret wrote: post #53
nonamegiven wrote: post #32

Europe seems to see Python as the name of a computer langauge. CERN uses Python. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cern+python They developed the PythonRoot package: http://alcaraz.home.cern.ch/alcaraz/PythonRoot/ It's probably of interest that this and many other Python packages have the word "Python" in the name of the package. I would hate to have to wonder whether PythonCoolPackage was for the Python language, or for int…

Yes, in Europe as well, I can confirm. In IT, Python is the programming language. On Google, even typed as a single word, it appears also on top of the search results beneath the animal.

It's above the animal for me.

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Post by jacquesm »

oellegaard wrote: post #26

When I saw the design of that site, I thought it was a scam :-( Anyway, I'm a EU citizen, so I'll definitely contact them.

It is a scam. If they claim they are involved with software and computers they must know of python. Stuff like this does not happen by accident.

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Post by mseebach »

First there's Google. They are heavy on Python and has several offices in the EU. I think the original version of their crawler was written in Python.

Academia: Cambridge has a Python course. I think Python as a teaching language has potential to go quite far back. Historical documents could be course catalogues, slides, handouts or even exams.

Commercial training: Quick Googling brings up qa.com and learningtree.co.uk, both are in the UK and have Python training and (obviously) a commercial interest in the word retaining it's meaning. They might very well have old marketing material or invoices for Python training lying around.

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Post by wannesm »

VanL wrote: post #2

I (and probably several other) members of the board will be on this thread to answer any questions. Van Lindberg Chairman, Python Software Foundation Edit: I have been asked what sort of statements would be helpful. I can't tell you exactly what to say - it needs to be your statement, but we need to make it clear that when someone says "Python" in relation to software, or a "Python server," or with "Python experience…

At the University of Leuven (Belgium), from this year on, all first year engineering students learn how to program in Python. Not yet an official reference to it but professor Dutre who teaches the course mentions it already on twitter: https://twitter.com/philipdutre/status/279716437982064640 https://twitter.com/philipdutre/status/301760614416674816

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Post by DanBC »

Concentrating on the other company: A Google search for [python hosting] doesn't even return them on the first page of hits; it returns a bunch of other companies offering hosting for python (the language) stuff or questions about hosting python (the language) based stuff.

You offered them the limited "python cloud hosting" and they refused? Baffling. Good Luck.

Re: Python trademark at risk in Europe

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Post by nolok »

VanL wrote: post #47
adamt wrote: post #40

I am from the UK and been programming in Python since before that domain was registered and happy to help. Am I missing something, if you go to Amazon.co.uk and search for "python" (not just in books, but a top level saerch) - (e.g. http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%... ) the top results are all books about the Python programming language published in the UK. Similarly search for "Python" on…

Thanks - this is a great thought. Our UK lawyers are going to be receiving a pretty decent Python library. :) Are there similar books in German, Italian, French, and Spanish?

French one: http://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C...

First ten results are about Python the language. Search not restricted to computer programming books. One of the book published in 2007.

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