Note that Chrome (or the application) chooses to reverse the self-view so that it acts like a mirror, whereas Firefox (or its application) chooses to display what the other person sees . It's a hard choice to make.
Why are they different?
Hello Firefox, this is Chrome calling
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Re: Hello Firefox, this is Chrome calling
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually, not really. It's all HTML 5 video elements on the page, so this is all you need: .mirrored { transform: scaleX(-1); } And you can make a button to add/remove that class as needed. However, I do hope the implementations are consistent as to which way it flips the video.
Changing it is easy. Adding options is an easy way to avoid choices. But Jabbles' point still remains: It's a hard choice to make.
Re: Hello Firefox, this is Chrome calling
#113Note that Chrome (or the application) chooses to reverse the self-view so that it acts like a mirror, whereas Firefox (or its application) chooses to display what the other person sees . It's a hard choice to make.
Why would you make it a mirror image? If they have anything written out it would be backwards.
Re: Hello Firefox, this is Chrome calling
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interoperability with V/VoIP protocols will still require a translation layer somewhere. That can be on the browser, or on the server, but you will still need some server-side component to relay the signaling information through (eg, websocket proxy), or a browser-interoperability mechanism (for xmpp, BOSH). If the remote endpoint doesn't support WebRTC's flavor of SRTP, then you're going to have to relay media throu…
That's what I meant - most probably some server support will be required. I hope ejabberd and others will address this. Until that WebRTC won't be useful for building web based XMPP/Jingle clients. Regarding codecs - most XMPP/Jingle clients support VP8 and Opus is catching up too. It's not like there are many of them around anyway. Farstream supports both if corresponding gstreamer components are present.
Given codec and SRTP compatibility with clients, eg GTalk (which I don't know about), you should be good to go.
Re: Hello Firefox, this is Chrome calling
#115Yes, please, please, please kill Skype. Kill it mercilessly. Using it has been the worst experience I've ever had with an application. I've been in a long distance relationship for a few years now and Skype has sadly been our main mode of video communication. The app crashes when I search chat history, can take upwards of 90+% of my CPU, literally forcing me to shut down every other application I have running. The fo…
By your own admission, Skype is the best video communication platform that exists but is far from perfect. It's hard to disagree. Why isn't someone creating something better?
Re: Hello Firefox, this is Chrome calling
#116Yes, please, please, please kill Skype. Kill it mercilessly. Using it has been the worst experience I've ever had with an application. I've been in a long distance relationship for a few years now and Skype has sadly been our main mode of video communication. The app crashes when I search chat history, can take upwards of 90+% of my CPU, literally forcing me to shut down every other application I have running. The fo…
Have you tried Google Hangouts? I've had some success with that lately over Skype.
Re: Hello Firefox, this is Chrome calling
#117Note that Chrome (or the application) chooses to reverse the self-view so that it acts like a mirror, whereas Firefox (or its application) chooses to display what the other person sees . It's a hard choice to make.
Are there any usability studies on video self-views? What are the precedents from other video conferencing software like Apple's FaceTime and Google Hangouts?
Re: Hello Firefox, this is Chrome calling
#118Yes, please, please, please kill Skype. Kill it mercilessly. Using it has been the worst experience I've ever had with an application. I've been in a long distance relationship for a few years now and Skype has sadly been our main mode of video communication. The app crashes when I search chat history, can take upwards of 90+% of my CPU, literally forcing me to shut down every other application I have running. The fo…
Re: Hello Firefox, this is Chrome calling
#119Yes, please, please, please kill Skype. Kill it mercilessly. Using it has been the worst experience I've ever had with an application. I've been in a long distance relationship for a few years now and Skype has sadly been our main mode of video communication. The app crashes when I search chat history, can take upwards of 90+% of my CPU, literally forcing me to shut down every other application I have running. The fo…
Have you tried Google Hangouts? I've had some success with that lately over Skype.
Re: Hello Firefox, this is Chrome calling
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
And who packages that box?
You're veering awfully metaphorical, but it might be relevant to point out that the crypto implementations in wide use today are typically open source, and the algorithms themselves are public, and widely reviewed by independent cryptographers who have no incentive to do anything sinister.