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Visual Studio and Team Foundation Server will have Git support

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Re: Visual Studio and Team Foundation Server will have Git support

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Post by meaty »

jf wrote: post #14
ethomson wrote: post #12

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While there are a lot of compelling reasons to use a distributed version control tool, there are also compelling reasons to use a centralized system. Having a lot of giant files (game resources are the canonical example) suits a checkout/edit/checkin system much better than a system that scans the disk like a edit/merge/commit system or a DVCS. These sorts of repositories exist within Microsoft (and DevDiv) itself. F…

A couple of other reasons to use centralized version control: 1: You are a Fortune 100 company and need to have access control on your codebase (so you can give contractors access to only a few files for example) 2: The code you are writing is subject to regulatory control.

This is why we use svn still.

Also, its easier for developers not to fuck it up royally.

Re: Visual Studio and Team Foundation Server will have Git support

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Post by gfody »

dottrap wrote: post #78

Ironic. I doubt Visual Studio could even compile the Git source code because of their 20 years obsolete C compiler which is two standards behind (C99, C11). I doubt the Git developers feel hamstrung to support stupid compilers.

Git compiles from source in portage on gentoo-prefix on interix using msvc. I don't know about from visual studio though I don't see any reason it wouldn't work.

Re: Visual Studio and Team Foundation Server will have Git support

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Post by Raz0rblade »

_stephan wrote: post #95
edwinnathaniel wrote: post #92

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Dream on. Java ecosystems have left you guys by 10k miles.

I'm curious, what Java IDE is 10K miles ahead of Visual Studio 2012/C# in your experience? Have you recently used VS with C#?

Java just doesn't scale, if you want fast code you wont use java. C++ one of the best, and for quick development c#, you can always invoke C++ libs in C# anyway and both are supported in visual studio. If your into webdevelopment even there java is slow.. despite it has some fun libs, but most people use them because their lazy programmers, a good programmer wont rely that much on much external libs

Re: Visual Studio and Team Foundation Server will have Git support

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Post by gfody »

meaty wrote: post #100
steeve wrote: post #76

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As a (now former) long time Window developer, and even though people like to bash on it, I still think VS (>2003) is the best god damn IDE I've ever used. And with .NET it leaves everyone in the dust, IMHO.

You've obviously never suffered a large project. Crashes, memory gobbling, random debugger failures, glacial speed, lag, project configuration corruption, UI glitches, refusing to load projects, half complete refactoring operations, search/replace just stops, having to reset environment at least once a day, grey screen of death. And that's just the IDE. CLR is the only framework and language combo I've used which wil…

sounds like you should get a new computer. 1994's a long time to go without at least a fresh install of windows - have you tried defragmenting your hard drive?

Re: Visual Studio and Team Foundation Server will have Git support

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Post by fusiongyro »

smackfu wrote: post #74
fusiongyro wrote: post #19

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The OP is simply saying that it seems odd that Microsoft would pour $20,000+ into Mercurial and then add git support to VS. http://mercurial.selenic.com/sponsors/ I'd bet this is simply a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. I had no idea Microsoft were sponsoring Mercurial--even that seems odd, spending money on an open source competitor to a product they also make. I think your analysis i…

It's not like $20k is a lot to Microsoft.

It's more than the $0 it's given git.

Re: Visual Studio and Team Foundation Server will have Git support

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Post by Rastafarian »

mdkess wrote: post #99
_stephan wrote: post #95

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I'm curious, what Java IDE is 10K miles ahead of Visual Studio 2012/C# in your experience? Have you recently used VS with C#?

Haven't used 2012, but I think that IntelliJ IDEA is much better than VS 2010, anyway. Not to knock on 2010, but IDEA is pretty amazing.

There's a VS plugin from the company that makes IDEA, called Resharper. Resharper + VS >> IDEA :D

Re: Visual Studio and Team Foundation Server will have Git support

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Post by Rastafarian »

MichaelGG wrote: post #72
dustinchilson wrote: post #65

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Some code like encryption algorithms cannot leave the United States by law (if developed by a US company/Citizen). Another example might be Credit Card Processing software, you don't want a lot of people knowing how you generate your encryption keys.

If your encryption key generation security depends on people not knowing how you generate keys, then it's totally busted.

It may not depend on it, but it will improve it by some small margin most of the time.

Re: Visual Studio and Team Foundation Server will have Git support

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Post by meaty »

gfody wrote: post #104
meaty wrote: post #100

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You've obviously never suffered a large project. Crashes, memory gobbling, random debugger failures, glacial speed, lag, project configuration corruption, UI glitches, refusing to load projects, half complete refactoring operations, search/replace just stops, having to reset environment at least once a day, grey screen of death. And that's just the IDE. CLR is the only framework and language combo I've used which wil…

sounds like you should get a new computer. 1994's a long time to go without at least a fresh install of windows - have you tried defragmenting your hard drive?

I've got a nice Dell Precision dual 4 core 2.8ghz xeon, 32gb of ecc ram, 500gb sas 15k RAID, Samsung 840 pro scratch drive and quardro card. What am I doing to deserve this pain?

My 5 year old Lenovo t61 is fine for ALL other tasks in all other languages.

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