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Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by amouat »

minsight wrote: post #54
cedsav wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's not providing any useful service. He's taking traffic and ad revenues away from legitimate sites while providing low quality content, which wastes people's time (hence they navigate away clicking the only links available: ads).

There's an assumption that the articles that he's having written are of low quality. It's possible that they might not be, and might be informative enough for users to find out what they might be looking for.

At $8 a pop? I expect they're complete drivel.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by falsestprophet »

sidsavara wrote: post #49
alain94040 wrote: post #45

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How much Google takes is not confidential, you can compute it from their SEC filings. Would you believe that they take 70% of the advertiser's money, and give back 30% to the site owner?

On average you are correct For an individual click it varies. http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/10/21/google-adsense-givi...

Well those figures are the opposite of gp's. Google passes on between 75 and 79% to publishers.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by vulpes »

llimllib wrote: post #23
tocomment wrote: post #12

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The free blog one sounds like a good idea. Would that get you google-banned?

Does it matter? If it wouldn't today, it might tomorrow. If you care about one site, you can't take that risk. He can because he has hundreds of sites to risk.

Replace free blogs with tech buzz and publicity from established blogs and its exactly the same thing in eyes of google. This would never get you banned.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by fredBuddemeyer »

icey wrote: post #47
fredBuddemeyer wrote: post #17

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yes but its putting considerable time and intellect into a very vulnerable asset. google inevitably changes the way it does things and then its time to start over. and with each keyword he is competing with passionate and dedicated people (the winning side of any war is filled with these) that view their efforts as something more than a hack or arbitrage.

I don't understand the logic that says you shouldn't do something because what your doing today may not be possible a year from now. In the meantime, this guy is pulling in a pretty healthy paycheck; I would assume he will be better prepared than most to handle any changes that come up.

think of it terms of option value. its relatively cheap to invest talent into something with bigger (as a function of time) payoff. when you make the point he is talented you are right, this makes the discrepancy in option value larger.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by icey »

fredBuddemeyer wrote: post #64
icey wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the logic that says you shouldn't do something because what your doing today may not be possible a year from now. In the meantime, this guy is pulling in a pretty healthy paycheck; I would assume he will be better prepared than most to handle any changes that come up.

think of it terms of option value. its relatively cheap to invest talent into something with bigger (as a function of time) payoff. when you make the point he is talented you are right, this makes the discrepancy in option value larger.

That clarifies it for me, thank you.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by run4yourlives »

cedsav wrote: post #43
run4yourlives wrote: post #28

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I think that's the kicker - he's providing a real service! People are looking for this information. He's providing it for them. The fact that he's choosing both what topics to provide and is not personally an expect and outsources is really more a product of an intelligent business operation that it is a nefarious idea. This actually sounds like something that could revolutionize modern media really.

He's not providing any useful service. He's taking traffic and ad revenues away from legitimate sites while providing low quality content, which wastes people's time (hence they navigate away clicking the only links available: ads).

99% of the web is low quality drivel, often wrong, misinformed and uneducated opinion pieces.

If he was writing all of that content himself would you still have a problem? If not, then what makes him any different than any other two bit blogger - you (presumably) and I included?

If outsourcing is your problem, then that's another story altogether. The provider he linked to seems to output relatively high quality pieces. One would suppose that you could get a refund on your $8 if you really were dissatisfied.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by run4yourlives »

amouat wrote: post #61
minsight wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an assumption that the articles that he's having written are of low quality. It's possible that they might not be, and might be informative enough for users to find out what they might be looking for.

At $8 a pop? I expect they're complete drivel.

I found this site as a "sample" of SEO writing from the guy he links to. Seems to be high enough quality to me.

http://www.businessaviationtraining.com/

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by cschneid »

hardik wrote: post #44
cedsav wrote: post #36

I can't really blame anyone for making money on what is essentially arbitrage, but the bottom line is that they add no value to the system and they make it harder for legitimate sites to get advertising revenues (by preempting traffic and ad $$).

In theory, arbitrageurs will arbitrage away the gap until the margin revenue outweighs the cost. So, in a sense arbitrageurs are good for the markets as they bring them closer to "perfect markets". As far as adding value bit is concerned, if the articles provided are worthwhile to users, then some value is created. (Although I feel very strongly against the idea of creating spammy blogs that he advocates.)

Meh, I don't even care about the spammy blogs. They aren't there for human consumption, and will never get enough links to be visible to humans.

The articles on the real sites are custom written, and he pays a small premium to decent content. (8-12 per it looks like), and in theory are researched a little bit.

He's creating value, then marketing it. A tiny bit spammy w/ the blogs, but it doesn't really hurt anybody (ie. humans won't see the spammy blogs).

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by run4yourlives »

gojomo wrote: post #35
sadiq wrote: post #10

Something I wondered... where do these adsense keyword lists actually get their data? Surely it's something google keep pretty close to their chests?

Google provides a lot of this data to advertisers -- so they bid for more word combinations. Even though Made-For-AdSense microsites are polluting the infosphere, in the short term they probably even make Google money. Overstuffing natural results with repetitive, poorly-written information? Great, you're more likely to click a paid ad instead! Making it so all the top 10 natural results are AdSense-holding pages? Gr…

Making it so all the top 10 natural results are AdSense-holding pages?

Actually, that's probably the one area Google won't go for, but it results in a smaller pool of people to make money off of, as consumers can't get the right answers to their questions.

The key needs to be high-quality content delivery. Without that, you leave yourself vulnerable to being banned.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by run4yourlives »

wmeredith wrote: post #58
modoc wrote: post #18

The key "trick" that he's using is to have unique, relevant, helpful content. That's the whole secret, imho, to good SEO ranking (obviously using the right tags, keywords, etc... helps). He's just doing it backwards from what you and I would do, i.e. he's finding ad money, and building a site based on that, versus building a site, and then working on building traffic (ad based or not, you want traffic).

He's working smarter not harder. Finding a market and then delivering what they want, which is old news in business. He's just being tech savvy about doing it online. Most entrepreneurs build something they want. He's building a products that he has empirical proof someone else wants.

I wonder if that alone is worthy of a home based business?

He's done all his real work in qualifying markets to attack. If you did this then sold it to the zillions of people who want to make money with blogs, you might be on to something, and save yourself the google rath.

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