How I make 15K a month at AdSense • Hacker News Board

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by jasonkester » Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 6:10 PM UTC

tocomment wrote: post #12

jasonkester wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. The linking strategies he talks about will likely get your site removed from Google's index. That's part of the cost of doing business for guys like this, and it's why he maintains hundreds of Made For AdSense sites. He knows that he'll lose a certain percentage of them every month. This sort of thing would be suicide for a site you actually care about. As a startup, having your website de-listed by Googl…

The free blog one sounds like a good idea. Would that get you google-banned?

I run one of those free blog hosting sites the author mentioned, and have to spend a few minutes each morning deleting a dozen new blogs from people that took that guy's advice. Please don't add to my workload.

But yeah, linking from bad neighborhoods is pretty much the best way to get removed from Google's index. Blog hosts that allow spam are considered bad neighborhoods.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by noodle » Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 6:11 PM UTC

AndrewWarner wrote: post #4

tptacek wrote: post #3

This sounds suspiciously like A Real Job.

It really is. That's why I don't understand why he wouldn't channel that creativity towards a business that has more meaning. Still, he he won't, you and I can by learning from him. Seems like a smart guy.

why couldn't he do both? having a less meaningful job that you use to fund a more meaningful but lower paying one is a common solution.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by llimllib » Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 6:15 PM UTC

tocomment wrote: post #12

jasonkester wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. The linking strategies he talks about will likely get your site removed from Google's index. That's part of the cost of doing business for guys like this, and it's why he maintains hundreds of Made For AdSense sites. He knows that he'll lose a certain percentage of them every month. This sort of thing would be suicide for a site you actually care about. As a startup, having your website de-listed by Googl…

The free blog one sounds like a good idea. Would that get you google-banned?

Does it matter? If it wouldn't today, it might tomorrow. If you care about one site, you can't take that risk. He can because he has hundreds of sites to risk.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by utnick » Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 6:16 PM UTC

sounds pretty shady... in the seo industry its impossible to know whats real and whats not

it wouldn't surprise me if this article is just a clever advertisement for this guy's article writing website

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by callmeed » Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 6:17 PM UTC

I think there's some really good lessons about SEO that startup founders can take away from this. Namely:

- Relevant, well-written, and keyword-laden content on your site is important

- Getting links to your site is important

- Getting links with good anchor text is even more important

- Having keywords in your site's browser titles is important

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by igorgue » Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 6:18 PM UTC

I like the "donate to an opensource project" thing :)

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by mcxx » Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 6:23 PM UTC

yes goglebots can read keywords with OCR in your site logo images

Can somebody confirm that? I have never heard about this before, seems cool.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by run4yourlives » Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 6:23 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #3

This sounds suspiciously like A Real Job.

I think that's the kicker - he's providing a real service!

People are looking for this information. He's providing it for them. The fact that he's choosing both what topics to provide and is not personally an expect and outsources is really more a product of an intelligent business operation that it is a nefarious idea.

This actually sounds like something that could revolutionize modern media really.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by joe_the_user » Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 6:25 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #3

This sounds suspiciously like A Real Job.

Remember the guy who was loudly complaining that google suddenly changed its algorithm and his site, which was nothing but an auto-generated directory, suddenly was excluded? Good for them.

Despite providing some ways for folks like this operator to partly game the system, Google has been on the for-front of forcing sites to have something of unique value in order to reach top ranking.

Re: How I make 15K a month at AdSense

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Post by run4yourlives » Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 6:26 PM UTC

fredBuddemeyer wrote: post #17

cookiecaper wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would he? This is essentially passive income -- a more traditional business requires more traditional hours and workload. If you have an automatic moneymaker, you don't trade that in for something you have to tend to.

yes but its putting considerable time and intellect into a very vulnerable asset. google inevitably changes the way it does things and then its time to start over. and with each keyword he is competing with passionate and dedicated people (the winning side of any war is filled with these) that view their efforts as something more than a hack or arbitrage.

While that's a good point, Google would basically have to remove adsense to have any measurable effects on this business.

These aren't worthless placeholders, they're valuable collections of decent information. He is speeding the ranking process a bit, but that would come eventually.