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Re: Mac is Linux done right

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"Linux"? If only there were some name you could call all those systems with shells and things. (And within that spectrum, from a all-over system perspective, i.e. not just GUI frippery, I'd rate OS X at about the same level as HP/UX. Maybe.)

Having a Desktop that works 99% of the time, and isn't made by amateur hour volunteers that either let things stagnate for ages (GTK+), or change their ideas every second month (from UI direction to media framework), is not "GUI frippery". Except if you spend all your time buried in the command line to begin with.

The only bad things about OS X are due to the proprietary and closed nature of some of the components (and the older versions used for some unix userland stuff). Implementation and experience wise, the whole desktop is miles ahead of Gnome/KDE.

Even Miguel De Icaza agrees, and he's the one of the handful who bloody started "Desktop Linux".

Re: Mac is Linux done right

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post #4

"Linux"? If only there were some name you could call all those systems with shells and things. (And within that spectrum, from a all-over system perspective, i.e. not just GUI frippery, I'd rate OS X at about the same level as HP/UX. Maybe.)

Well, macOS, HP/UX and Linux based operating systems are all UNIX-like operating systems.

Re: Mac is Linux done right

#17
I swear this is the ultimate troll title.

I've a decade-long linux user and am forced to use OSX on a daily basis due to iOS app dev. And OSX needs some real improvement coming from a Linux perspective. Here's why.

Window management (If you used Compiz not for its effect but window management, you'll understand why) suck. Dual screen sucks. Try expanding one to a different viewport and you can't use the other screen. I haven't tried 3 screens yet. Need more configurability and better CLI integration. (IE: Try the command to start Postgres, as is compared to ubuntu's service manner)

I'm a dev though.

Re: Mac is Linux done right

#18
post #2

Well, I've tried developing on a mac and deploying to linux. Never again.

+bazillion. When I used Mac OS X, everything was very shiny, but also not fully there, functionally. You almost had everything you need, but those few packages that needed to be manually built. And that setting was almost reasonable, but not quite. And there was always something that could be worked around, but never get solved. So yes, I could run MS Word without resorting to Wine, but I couldn't get any work done w…

I will second this. I used OS X for a year and hated how I had to fight it at every turn. It was a while ago, but when I had to install any package/library, it was a complete headache. Ports were worse, I once hosed my packages trying to upgrade one because it needed uninstalling everything and reinstalling them again one by one, but it didn't seem to like that.

Apart from development being a complete pain, the UI was designed for casual users. The virtual desktop implementation switched desktops on alt+tab, rendering desktops completely useless for separation of activities. There were many such small annoyances, and I was thoroughly glad to switch to Ubuntu in the end.

Re: Mac is Linux done right

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post #3

> Interesting new ones are: lsm, lam, asr. asr aside, I have lam(1) but no lsm. Is it native to OS X or can you borrow it somewhere?

Maxims-MacBook-Air:~ maximveksler$ man lsm | head LSM(1) Latent Semantic Mapping LSM(1) NAME lsm - Latent Semantic Mapping tool

I had it installed with my Mac, can’t sure if it’s native or comes with Xcode command line tools.

Maxims-MacBook-Air:~ maximveksler$ which lsm /usr/bin/lsm

Re: Mac is Linux done right

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post #5

"Linux done right", depending on your definition, but certainly not GNU/Linux done right. You know, seeing as 90% the OS is proprietary.

GNU/Linux is the name to be used on UNIX-like systems that use GNU as its userland and Linux as its kernel. Often called simply "Linux" instead since many people think it sounds better.
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