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What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by sinak »

jlongster wrote: post #36

What the fuck. (And I rarely say that word.) We've got to grow up. This is 9th grade all over again. You know, those weird people that do things that you don't understand? They're the ones that grow up and make big impacts on the world. Why can't we get over our negativity? We can't stop ourselves from thinking horrible things, or even saying them out loud to people around us, but surely we can restrain ourselves fro…

Corey Haines wrote a thoughtful apology here: http://programmingtour.blogspot.com/2013/01/im-sorry.html

Only one of the three to do so thus far.

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Post by flogic »

luigi wrote: post #12

Here's the Twitter discussion alluded to in the post: https://twitter.com/harthvader/status/293829635823792128 Main justification is the nicer syntax. I agree it's nicer, but would approach it by wrapping sed, not re-implementing in Node.js from scratch. I don't think that excuses the ridicule, though.

I don't think rewriting as a wrapper around sed would be an improvement. That would put you in the business of translating one regexp syntax into another which is probably more error prone.

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Post by Xion »

jlongster wrote: post #36

What the fuck. (And I rarely say that word.) We've got to grow up. This is 9th grade all over again. You know, those weird people that do things that you don't understand? They're the ones that grow up and make big impacts on the world. Why can't we get over our negativity? We can't stop ourselves from thinking horrible things, or even saying them out loud to people around us, but surely we can restrain ourselves fro…

I somehow feel the "Twitter culture" itself is partially to blame. A setting that rewards short, sharp, witty remarks that skirt over the surface is just few small steps away from endorsing sarcastic, bitter, passive-aggressive or even over-the-top spurts.

It's no wonder that no one who made those stingy tweets did respond to author's replies and questions. They didn't want to start a discussion in the first place.

Fortunately, the pendulum can also swing the other way here, as they are people who readily jump to defend against harassment.

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Post by ddrmaxgt37 »

zem wrote: post #63
jrockway wrote: post #20

I don't really see the problem. I never remember sed syntax and instead just use perl -e. It follows that someone may want to use JavaScript instead though I would personally avoid JavaScript at nearly any cost. As for haters on the Internet, yeah, welcome to the Internet. If you do something, chances are someone hates you. Why? They are jealous that you are getting attention instead of them. They could write a bette…

the worst bit is that a lot of the ridicule seems motivated by the fact that it's fashionable to hate on node.js. this tweet as much as admitted it: https://twitter.com/steveklabnik/status/293831920872194050

the hatred of node.js always reminds me of anti-apple people.

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Post by DanBC »

kyro wrote: post #121
jlongster wrote: post #36

What the fuck. (And I rarely say that word.) We've got to grow up. This is 9th grade all over again. You know, those weird people that do things that you don't understand? They're the ones that grow up and make big impacts on the world. Why can't we get over our negativity? We can't stop ourselves from thinking horrible things, or even saying them out loud to people around us, but surely we can restrain ourselves fro…

At this point, I blame it on the assumption that Aspergers must run rampant and is severely underdiagnosed in the dev community.

I understand your point, but "makes my eyes bleed" is not a typical comment from a neuro-atypical person.

The neuro-typical can be assholes too.

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Post by itsbonczek »

bmmayer1 wrote: post #70

For years I have been terrified about putting my code on Github for fear of rage and retribution from the programmer community. This is a real problem for us amateur coders who enjoy hacking but don't necessarily have the chops to go head-to-head with the serious guys.

Don't let occurrences like these deter you from putting code out there. The truly great developers would applaud your efforts and probably give you a pointer or two. The faster you fail, the faster you improve.

Reminds me of an old school Jeff Atwood quote:

"There are a handful of programmers in the world capable of producing brilliant, perfect code. All the rest of us can do is keep making our software less shitty over time-- a process of continuous improvement."

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Post by mbreese »

bstar77 wrote: post #89

I've been following 2 of the 3 guys in that twitter conversation for several years. The first thing I can say is that they both are big parts of the ruby community and generally represent it well. With that said, this exchange really upsets me. I've noticed that there is definitely a sense of elitism among the guys that speak at many of the ruby conferences. I think a situation like this is simply a case of them forg…

And when you say that they are part of the Ruby community, it's sad, but I said to myself - why doesn't that surprise me. It's said that the community behind a really useful language has that type of reputation.

To tell you the truth, it's part of why I moved to python.

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Post by swanson »

anthonyb wrote: post #123
jlongster wrote: post #36

What the fuck. (And I rarely say that word.) We've got to grow up. This is 9th grade all over again. You know, those weird people that do things that you don't understand? They're the ones that grow up and make big impacts on the world. Why can't we get over our negativity? We can't stop ourselves from thinking horrible things, or even saying them out loud to people around us, but surely we can restrain ourselves fro…

I like his earlier writing too, on dealing with "open source assholes": http://harthur.wordpress.com/2011/06/30/dealing-with-not-dea...

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