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Poll: Ban Codinghorror?

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Re: Poll: Ban Codinghorror?

#21

I'm one of the unwanted new people driven here by Coding Horror and you are making me feel very welcome.

Don't feel like that. I think the community aspect of HN is a bit overstated, it is not as if all HN users are speaking with one voice. Besides, it is all about good content, not about personalities.

Re: Poll: Ban Codinghorror?

#22
Greetings! I'm one of the regular readers of codinghorror who had never seen news.ycombinator.com until just today. With respect, the original poster (pollster?) is painting with a rather large brush. Could we please at least be allowed to get in here and see what's going on before the assertion that we will "contribute very little to the website" is leveled?

On the other hand, it's refreshing to see the comments of someone who doesn't think that a simple count of users is the be-all and end-all of a website's worth. That attitude is intriguing and makes me want to learn more about this site.

Re: Poll: Ban Codinghorror?

#23

Greetings! I'm one of the regular readers of codinghorror who had never seen news.ycombinator.com until just today. With respect, the original poster (pollster?) is painting with a rather large brush. Could we please at least be allowed to get in here and see what's going on before the assertion that we will "contribute very little to the website" is leveled? On the other hand, it's refreshing to see the comments of…

Could we please at least be allowed to get in here and see what's going on before the assertion that we will "contribute very little to the website" is leveled?

Don't worry, all they're talking about is banning links to Codinghorror, not banning people coming from it. We would never do that. Not that we would ban CH itself either.

Re: Poll: Ban Codinghorror?

#24
Let's not overreact to a few recent anti-YC posts from Jeff. Wait a month and see if you are still this angry.

Also, banning a site for generally worthless content is one thing. Banning a site because they made some incorrect but interesting criticisms of Hacker News is another.

Re: Poll: Ban Codinghorror?

#25
post #19

"No, don't ban it" and "I like seeing Codinghorror stories on News.YC." don't have to go together. If you're going to ban one source that irritates some people, I'm sure a list can be prepared of other sources to ban. Here's a sample of authors/blogs to ban: 1. Guy Kawasaki 2. Seth Godin 3. TechCrunch 4. 37Signals 5. Joel the Fog Creek Guy They all can be seen as shameless self-marketing disguised as blogs or worthle…

Nitpick: Valleywag is already banned.

Edited to note that. Also, the spamtrap on your site rules.

Re: Poll: Ban Codinghorror?

#26
You are not suggesting consorship. This a clearly well beyond suggestion. You want Codinghorror banned but you do not have the spine to say this outright, so you propose a poll to make yourself appear reasonable.

Even your second point is baseless, "potentially bringing a new mass of users that will contribute very little to the website". Note the use of the word 'potentially', you know you have no evidence of this but you don't like Jeff so just throw any shit around and see what sticks.

What next, CH causes cancer, CH makes you homosexual, CH promotes liberalism?

(I am no longer bothered by having negative karma)

Re: Poll: Ban Codinghorror?

#27
post #2

poll flawed. i need a "no don't ban it, but i'm tired of seeing codinghorror stories on news.yc" perhaps a better solution overall would be to implement some sort of restriction on submissions. if you submit from a single domain more than X number of times in the last Y submissions, you're disallowed from submitting from that domain for another Z submissions.

Agreed. Some of Coding Horror's material is certainly worthwhile. For example, I know I found out about the HttpOnly flag in cookies from him, and I'm pretty sure I've learned of some usability improvements from his articles as well. However, there are a lot of his articles that I don't think really belong on HN, but they end up here anyway.

I'm actually a bit suspicious that the following may be happening:

1) Karma-hungry users submit all of his articles as soon as they're posted without checking whether or not they've been submitted already.

2) Since submitting a page that's already been submitted results in an upvote, his articles make it to the front page and RSS feed without the usual oversight of people reading things in the new submissions list.

Re: Poll: Ban Codinghorror?

#28
post #18

I don't particularly like Codinghorror, but I'm not in favour of having it banned. I would however like a mechanism to filter out stories from certain domains.

I would however like a mechanism to filter out stories from certain domains.

The human eye can serve as that mechanism if the parenthetical label of the submitted article's domain is unique to one author or group of authors. (E.g., google.com as a source domain doesn't help me at all in filtering articles, but techcrunch.com does.) I read HN selectively, depending on what the source of submitted articles is. For the record, I like reading some of the codinghorror.com articles submitted here.

Re: Poll: Ban Codinghorror?

#29
I used to read codinghorror regularly. I'd like to think I've "graduated" (since some time ago now). Welcome all visitors from codinghorror.

Also, I sort of find it hard to believe that Jeff's posts are as bad as all that, but I can't say from experience b/c I just don't click the links anymore.

Re: Poll: Ban Codinghorror?

#30

Could we have a 3rd option: "Quit whining" I mean, really. Although, you make a good point that it will drive unwanted people here...but there's nothing we can do about that unfortunately.

Well some of us might not want to just surrender like that. And since this is the internet "whining" is pretty much all that can be done. That and continually moving on to the "new" place.
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