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Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by [deleted] »

aetherson wrote: post #21
rayiner wrote: post #19

I think one phenomenon is that Android users have more experience with iOS than vice versa. I've been pretty much iOS/OS X-only since 2005/2006, I honestly don't know what's up in Android land these days. And, aside from an ill-fated tryst with Windows Phone 8, I'm not super interested in what's happening in Android land. I don't feel compelled to comment on Android threads because I don't really care. But I feel lik…

Good call. I live in the bay area, and originally got on board with an Android phone because AT&T's service in this area was terrible (and, at the time, iPhone meant AT&T). I did this knowing, at the time, that Android was an inferior product, carrier aside. So I spent a good deal of time watching the iPhone, watching my Android, and watching Android catch up with the iPhone. When I recently bought another Android ph…

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Post by sbuk »

gbog wrote: post #54
rwallace wrote: post #34

The explanation for anti-Apple anger is far simpler, and doesn't need a reference to the actual products at all. Anger comes from insecurity. People get angry when they feel threatened. People feel threats come from the top dog (this assessment is usually not very accurate, but it is human psychology). People who feel (whether rightly or wrongly) that their side is securely on top, don't bother getting angry. Thus, i…

Maybe, but no. Anti-Apple anger can also come from people like me who prefer open protocols, open markets, open ecosystems, and are saddened to see people naming themselves "hackers" using tools that are obviously handcuffing them.

"...obviously handcuffing them" No more than the GPL does.

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by sbuk »

zyb09 wrote: post #61

Ah my favorite topic, ok here we go: I disagree. Apple fans are the absolute worst. Not want to offend anyone here, but there's a certain type of delusional Apple fans, also known as members of the Apple Cult. The member strongly believes, that Apple products are perfect, flawless, and that every other competing product is inferior and can't comprehend why some people prefer other products. He/She will also always de…

Nah. Android fans are worse. Take a look at sites like The Verge, Gizmodo, Engadget and the Register. I see the behaviour that you describe from Google fans far more of late.

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by sbuk »

gbog wrote: post #56

Disagree. Anti-Apple crowd has at least partly a very solid and rational ground to stand upon. Apple's much admired and followed direction is pointing exactly to the opposite way that most hackers should prefer and push towards. Look at an iPhone 5 and a Raspberry Pi: one goes North and the other goes South. One had a heavy marketing and costs a lot, and cannot be opened without breaking it. The other the opposite: i…

THis is the bubble that we talk about. Products like the iPhone are for consumers. That's everybody. When it comes down to it, it seems that "hackers" are pissed that "normal" people are "getting" computing.

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by anthonyb »

sbuk wrote: post #69
anthonyb wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't seem to be 'rage' to me: Good to hear that an Android version is on the way but why have iOS devices been prioritised yet again by the BBC in the release of an app? I'm getting really annoyed about the BBC's obsession with Apple products that only account for around 20% of the UK market. Poor show BBC. For an organisation who are supposed to be platform neutral ..., there seems to be a steady and consist…

Actually read it. The guy is whining because they released iOS apps first, which is hardly surprising since there is essentially only two platforms to get right. It's very passive-aggressive, which is true of most posts like this.

> Actually read it.

I am capable of reading, and have been for quite some time, thankyouverymuch.

And it's still not rage, is it?

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by snogglethorpe »

sbuk wrote: post #68
snogglethorpe wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I expect it has a lot to do with which blogs/forums you're reading. In my experience, the number of Apple fanboi comments vastly exceeds the number of Android fanboi comments, pretty much everywhere I've noticed. Given that the iphone is very, very, popular, especially in English-speaking countries (and I mostly read blogs in English), this isn't entirely surprising: popularity, especially mass-market popularity, alm…

That's not even true here I'm afraid...

What's not even true here?

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by arrrg »

martythemaniak wrote: post #50
jmduke wrote: post #2

A lot of the elitism (or at least what I consider elitism) from Gruber, Arment, Siegler et all is incredibly off-putting to me -- and I own a MacBook Air, iPad, and iPhone. That being said, I think this is an incredibly well-reasoned and well-crafted explanation of the massive chasm between Apple 'fanboys' and Apple 'haters' -- and explains to me why, as a current zealot of the iOS ecosystem, I nonetheless find so mu…

>Apple’s products are opinionated. They say, “We know what’s best for you. Here it is. Oh, that thing you want to do? We won’t let you do that because it would suck. Trust us. If you don’t like it, there’s the door.” Problem is, Apple's acolytes won't leave you alone to go through the door - they'll follow you and keep telling you you're a wrong for wanting something different or thinking different (the irony is alwa…

I don’t think that’s very prevalent. I see exactly the opposite. People telling users of Apple products that they are wrong. They won’t leave you alone.

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by jvzr »

zyb09 wrote: post #61

Ah my favorite topic, ok here we go: I disagree. Apple fans are the absolute worst. Not want to offend anyone here, but there's a certain type of delusional Apple fans, also known as members of the Apple Cult. The member strongly believes, that Apple products are perfect, flawless, and that every other competing product is inferior and can't comprehend why some people prefer other products. He/She will also always de…

Whoa, prejudice much? I'm an Apple fan and I don't restlessly bash others about their phones. If anything, there is as much fanboyism going on on the other side, and probably more given the user base.

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by olgeni »

> No, you can’t have that hardware keyboard or removable battery. No, you can’t install that app. No, you can’t have that feature."

"And yes, you can sit still in this drawer while I upgrade my custom rom on the other device. But don't worry, you are so elite. See you later."

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by sbuk »

sbuk wrote: post #73
zyb09 wrote: post #61

Ah my favorite topic, ok here we go: I disagree. Apple fans are the absolute worst. Not want to offend anyone here, but there's a certain type of delusional Apple fans, also known as members of the Apple Cult. The member strongly believes, that Apple products are perfect, flawless, and that every other competing product is inferior and can't comprehend why some people prefer other products. He/She will also always de…

Nah. Android fans are worse. Take a look at sites like The Verge, Gizmodo, Engadget and the Register. I see the behaviour that you describe from Google fans far more of late.

Nicely exhibited by the down vote. Stay classy HN.
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