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Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by zyb09 »

Ah my favorite topic, ok here we go:

I disagree.

Apple fans are the absolute worst. Not want to offend anyone here, but there's a certain type of delusional Apple fans, also known as members of the Apple Cult. The member strongly believes, that Apple products are perfect, flawless, and that every other competing product is inferior and can't comprehend why some people prefer other products. He/She will also always defend everything Apple does, spinning and twisting every news story to make Apple appear in a positive light and often directly contradict their previous stance, when Apple does something unexpected. These types also collect old Apple computers, like they're trophys, and pay for a cinema ticket to watch a Steve Jobs interview.

They glorify Apples quarterly earning report and don't seem to notice that it's actually them paying a $500 profit margin on an iPhone - or maybe they're just happy to do so.

I know, because I've met a few in real life, and the worst thing it's completely pointless to discuss anything related to Apples decisions with them - it's like talking against a wall. That's why they get called Sheeple, mindless worse ship of a corporation.

Disclaimer: I don't hate Apple, I'm happy we have 2 ecosystems, strictly talking about the fans here.

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by swedegeek »

capkutay wrote: post #33

I think Apple has positioned itself well in the day-to-day life of the average consumer, and they will likely hold that spot for some time to come. Apple almost sold more iphones in the last 3 months than they did in the whole year of 2010. Yet to most people Apple is also doomed and everything they're doing is wrong. Outside the circle of tech journalists and gadget aficionados, people want Apple products. I hear gr…

FYI... IDC press release on 2012-11-01

"Android Marks Fourth Anniversary Since Launch with 75.0% Market Share in Third Quarter, According to IDC"

https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23771812

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by gutnor »

SCdF wrote: post #17
doe88 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've observed (non scientifically I concede) the same thing than Marco. Also another thing he wrote I find particularly true is the need for Android users to try to convince others people to switch to Android as if there was no good reason to own an iPhone. That's strange.

I've observed (not scientifically as you say) the opposite. In fact, just yesterday there was some 'Android sucks Apple's great' stuff going on in the comments on an article on The Verge, which is actually one of the sites he directly says he visits. It's hard to take Marco et al seriously anymore.

I think the article is trying too hard to justify Apple-hate to some sort of intellectual reasoning.

Really, people are all upset mostly because of the low barrier of entry to have an opinion on the subject. That is just open to any kid over 12. It is just like discussing politic at the pub after the second round: people are angry at Apple like they are angry at Fox News, or the Republican, or whatever - because it is mainstream right now and there are plenty of easy, pre-made one line argument you can parrot.

The result is that it is almost impossible to find actual interesting/constructive comment in any discussion related to Apple.

disclaimer: YMMV, my fav newsites seems completely devoid of Apple fanboys (i.e. no bashing on Android news, and very little fan comment on Apple news - except in reaction to Apple bashing, generally offtopic anyway so useless)

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by rwallace »

gbog wrote: post #54
rwallace wrote: post #34

The explanation for anti-Apple anger is far simpler, and doesn't need a reference to the actual products at all. Anger comes from insecurity. People get angry when they feel threatened. People feel threats come from the top dog (this assessment is usually not very accurate, but it is human psychology). People who feel (whether rightly or wrongly) that their side is securely on top, don't bother getting angry. Thus, i…

Maybe, but no. Anti-Apple anger can also come from people like me who prefer open protocols, open markets, open ecosystems, and are saddened to see people naming themselves "hackers" using tools that are obviously handcuffing them.

I certainly agree those are valid reasons. I'm just pointing out why nobody gets mad at Nintendo, though the Wii is even considerably more closed than the iPhone.

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by yareally »

snogglethorpe wrote: post #49
doe88 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've observed (non scientifically I concede) the same thing than Marco. Also another thing he wrote I find particularly true is the need for Android users to try to convince others people to switch to Android as if there was no good reason to own an iPhone. That's strange.

I expect it has a lot to do with which blogs/forums you're reading. In my experience, the number of Apple fanboi comments vastly exceeds the number of Android fanboi comments, pretty much everywhere I've noticed. Given that the iphone is very, very, popular, especially in English-speaking countries (and I mostly read blogs in English), this isn't entirely surprising: popularity, especially mass-market popularity, alm…

Spend some time on XDA, Rootzwiki or any of the other larger Android forums and you'll find them :). I see them quite often when I read either one and I'm an avid Android user.

Most just don't show their colors until there is a new Apple Product out to rant about. Otherwise, they're quite tame generally and reserved in their behavior. However, talk about Apple and things change pretty quick. Most aren't silly enough to argue the obvious things that Apple has up on Android (battery life in terms of battery capacity and overall system performance/responsiveness). However, there's always a few crazy fanboys that will still fight those things.

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by sbuk »

martythemaniak wrote: post #50
jmduke wrote: post #2

A lot of the elitism (or at least what I consider elitism) from Gruber, Arment, Siegler et all is incredibly off-putting to me -- and I own a MacBook Air, iPad, and iPhone. That being said, I think this is an incredibly well-reasoned and well-crafted explanation of the massive chasm between Apple 'fanboys' and Apple 'haters' -- and explains to me why, as a current zealot of the iOS ecosystem, I nonetheless find so mu…

>Apple’s products are opinionated. They say, “We know what’s best for you. Here it is. Oh, that thing you want to do? We won’t let you do that because it would suck. Trust us. If you don’t like it, there’s the door.” Problem is, Apple's acolytes won't leave you alone to go through the door - they'll follow you and keep telling you you're a wrong for wanting something different or thinking different (the irony is alwa…

I don't see that in the comment on many websites. Just reams (almost literally) of Android users doing precisely what you describe.

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by sbuk »

snogglethorpe wrote: post #49
doe88 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've observed (non scientifically I concede) the same thing than Marco. Also another thing he wrote I find particularly true is the need for Android users to try to convince others people to switch to Android as if there was no good reason to own an iPhone. That's strange.

I expect it has a lot to do with which blogs/forums you're reading. In my experience, the number of Apple fanboi comments vastly exceeds the number of Android fanboi comments, pretty much everywhere I've noticed. Given that the iphone is very, very, popular, especially in English-speaking countries (and I mostly read blogs in English), this isn't entirely surprising: popularity, especially mass-market popularity, alm…

That's not even true here I'm afraid...

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by sbuk »

anthonyb wrote: post #22
seiji wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One example of many: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2013/01/sport_app.htm...

That doesn't seem to be 'rage' to me: Good to hear that an Android version is on the way but why have iOS devices been prioritised yet again by the BBC in the release of an app? I'm getting really annoyed about the BBC's obsession with Apple products that only account for around 20% of the UK market. Poor show BBC. For an organisation who are supposed to be platform neutral ..., there seems to be a steady and consist…

Actually read it. The guy is whining because they released iOS apps first, which is hardly surprising since there is essentially only two platforms to get right. It's very passive-aggressive, which is true of most posts like this.

Re: Anti-Apple Anger

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Post by sbuk »

aetherson wrote: post #21
rayiner wrote: post #19

I think one phenomenon is that Android users have more experience with iOS than vice versa. I've been pretty much iOS/OS X-only since 2005/2006, I honestly don't know what's up in Android land these days. And, aside from an ill-fated tryst with Windows Phone 8, I'm not super interested in what's happening in Android land. I don't feel compelled to comment on Android threads because I don't really care. But I feel lik…

Good call. I live in the bay area, and originally got on board with an Android phone because AT&T's service in this area was terrible (and, at the time, iPhone meant AT&T). I did this knowing, at the time, that Android was an inferior product, carrier aside. So I spent a good deal of time watching the iPhone, watching my Android, and watching Android catch up with the iPhone. When I recently bought another Android ph…

I switched for iOS to Android (a Nexus S) based on a lot of what the tech press and users were saying on forums and I have to say that it has been an awful experience for me. With Google dropping support for this model late last year, I will never buy a product that they or Samsung are involved with again.
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