Original Stephen Heymann DOX was taken down by Pastebin (why would they do that?). SO here's another, albeit less info...
Petition the Whitehouse to remove Carmen Ortiz from office
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Re: Petition the Whitehouse to remove Carmen Ortiz from office
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stephen P. Heymann, AUSA, too.
Asst US Attorney Stephen P Heymann (US vs. Swartz) DOX http://pastebin.com/DUgS0QTw
It's been taken down by Pastebin, evidently Pastebin likes protecting assholes, here's another, but I only grabbed part of it before it went down: http://pastebin.com/WvY5RnjV
Re: Petition the Whitehouse to remove Carmen Ortiz from office
#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it is an accident, exactly what purpose would punishing them serve? If it was due to negligence, then there is the issue of to what extent it has a preventative effect. I'm Norwegian. One of the aspects of the Norwegian legal systems is short prison sentences. The legal maximum sentence is 21 years with a recent modification that allows for extensions (this must be included in the conviction, and is restricted to…
"punishment simply doesn't work very well." Nonsense. This isn't like like murder or robbery, where the criminal can more or less reoffend at will. You can't prosecute unless you are an official, government-recognized prosecutor. If she is removed from her job, she won't be able to prosecute anyone ever again. That will work just fine.
Consider this allegory as a way to recontextualize the question.
Let's say that you have a software project, and one of the engineers on the project is fixing bugs. His bug fixes generally fix the bug but often are found to have performance impacts, or later when another problem is found his bug fixes require complex refactoring.
This person is doing their job, day in and day out. Will firing them make your system any better? No, it won't.
This is a management problem, the manager talks to this guy and sets guidelines and standards for his bug fixes, the manager creates policies around how bug fixes are evaluated and the way in which engineers are evaluated that fix them. And then if this engineer can't do the job, as the manager needs it done, then you let them go because you really need a better engineer in that slot.
Its always the manager's fault if someone is let go for just doing their job. If how they did it is an issue, the manager should fix it, and if they are incapable of fixing it then you let go the manager and replace them.
Re: Petition the Whitehouse to remove Carmen Ortiz from office
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it is an accident, exactly what purpose would punishing them serve? If it was due to negligence, then there is the issue of to what extent it has a preventative effect. I'm Norwegian. One of the aspects of the Norwegian legal systems is short prison sentences. The legal maximum sentence is 21 years with a recent modification that allows for extensions (this must be included in the conviction, and is restricted to…
"punishment simply doesn't work very well." Nonsense. This isn't like like murder or robbery, where the criminal can more or less reoffend at will. You can't prosecute unless you are an official, government-recognized prosecutor. If she is removed from her job, she won't be able to prosecute anyone ever again. That will work just fine.
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Re: Petition the Whitehouse to remove Carmen Ortiz from office
#245THere are rapist and murderers that get smaller sentences than Aaron Swartz. Priorities are screwed up Ms. Ortiz.
Re: Petition the Whitehouse to remove Carmen Ortiz from office
#246the petition now needs 100k signatures, sign it here: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-stat...
Re: Petition the Whitehouse to remove Carmen Ortiz from office
#247Carmen Ortiz should be disbarred.
Re: Petition the Whitehouse to remove Carmen Ortiz from office
#248I found on the Internet that Steven P Heymann was honored at an awards ceremony by Eric Holder. Prior to the year 2010, there's not that much on Heymann from a cursory search. But he was moving up by busting cybercrime in concert with Secret Service Agents and FBI. The power-boys club. And certainly enjoying it. I found evidence of intent to misrepresent Aaron Swartz when they referenced him as "not attending MIT but…
This is not the first time US Attorney Carmen Ortiz has wronged innocent American Citizens. I read on the Internet a case of an Innocent Federal Employee who worked for US Customs in Boston his EEOC case was tarnished as Prosecutors in Boston concealed from the Federal Judge the Employees Right-to-Sue which is a Civil Rights Case under Tile VII of the US Civil Rights Act of 1964. Carmen Ortiz failed to see that an innocent family has been damaged by an OVERREACHING PROSECUTION who hide Civil Rights documents from a Federal Judge. USA Ortiz has done this to innocent Americans to get a Political Stand.
Re: Petition the Whitehouse to remove Carmen Ortiz from office
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
You do realize, that you are suggesting we do "eye for an eye" right? She decided to drive a tack with a sledge hammer, and you are calling for us to do the same? I do think she is wrong, but attempting to do the same to her makes us no better than them.
Firing a bad employee is not "the same" as sending someone to federal prison for 30 years or hounding them to suicide. So in your view, employees should never be fired no matter how bad they screw up?
I agree she should be fired. We just need to recognize we are doing the exact same thing they are.
Re: Petition the Whitehouse to remove Carmen Ortiz from office
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
"punishment simply doesn't work very well." Nonsense. This isn't like like murder or robbery, where the criminal can more or less reoffend at will. You can't prosecute unless you are an official, government-recognized prosecutor. If she is removed from her job, she won't be able to prosecute anyone ever again. That will work just fine.
Consider this allegory as a way to recontextualize the question. Let's say that you have a software project, and one of the engineers on the project is fixing bugs. His bug fixes generally fix the bug but often are found to have performance impacts, or later when another problem is found his bug fixes require complex refactoring. This person is doing their job, day in and day out. Will firing them make your system an…
Now, let's say that his "bug fixes" actually result in someone's death, and that his definition of "doing his job" consists of working obsessively on trivial matters while ignoring more serious ones, and that his entire motivation appears to be to get his name in the papers rather than actually solving problems.
Ortiz IS the manager in this situation, by the way.