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We're investigating. It will take at least a couple days, because we'll need to meet with the founders in person. FWIW, the install window Patrick overlaid on top of InstallMonetizer's site in that screenshot is not actually InstallMonetizer.
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I don't mean aptitude itself. I mean , if you are bundling your own software for Ubuntu you get to distribute it however you like. If somebody else decides to redistribute it minus the crapware then you can potentially sue them. So you can say "the only legal way to get my software is to download this file which is bundled with InstallMonetizerForUbuntu". Whether it is bundled as a .tar.gz or a .deb and whether it co…
I've said nothing about distribution. Only packaging. And specifically giving people instructions on how to do it themselves. Which isn't illegal. Nor is it particularly endorsing something illegal. > So you can say "the only legal way to get my software is to download this file which is bundled with InstallMonetizerForUbuntu". But, once I have that downloaded, I don't have to go straight to installation. I can remov…
Not a solution that scales very well though, if it did we wouldn't have the problem we do on Windows at the moment.
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My experience recently was similar. A simple open source installer landed me a like of toolbars, preformance tools, and other assorted crapware. Incredibly obnoxious, and instantly removed any respect I had for the developer.
Are you sure it was the original developer that inserted the crapware?
Quality.
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Agreed, a lot of the reasons that non technical users dislike Windows seem to be the result of these. It really takes control out of the users hands. We can see the origins of this becoming a problem on Ubuntu with Canonical adding stuff like the Amazon search and seemingly having no issue with bundleware as a means of monetisation. On the other hand I'm surprised this isn't more of an issue on the Mac, since Mac (es…
OS X applications are usually distributed as disk images (.dmg) containing the app itself, a symlink to /Applications for easily copying the app there, and maybe supporting files. Installers are unusual, except for huge software packages like Office or odd things like preference panes, which are not as easy to get to the right place. I presume that people using Macs tend to be 1) wary of downloading any programs from…
If only. Last time I did a "check up" on my sister's macbook she had managed to install a toolbar and some other evil shitware that would hijack her google searches to collect her info and redirect her to bing.
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A lot of people these days are bashing Apple and Google for creating walled gardens with their app stores, but this is really the primary reason such walled gardens have taken off. They offer a mostly crapware-free experience. If Linux on the desktop were to get popular, I'd hate to imagine what might happen to the open source Fedora and Debian/Ubuntu repositories.
If desktop Linux was widely requested by the general public, PC vendors and download sites would heavily promote custom Linux builds complete with pre-installed crapware, dubious defaults and quite possibly broken upgrade paths and most consumers would never know the difference. They'd probably have their own whored-out repositories too.
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Like most people they probably know what sucks to have sprung on them. If they don't want their brand to suck as well then they can strive to align with peoples' expectations of how such software should behave. You don't like popups? I'll bet they know that. I think the investors can see the value in not tarnishing the brand and so that might fuel their efforts to make sure none of their advertisers can be classified…
"You don't like popups? I'll bet they know that." Knowing is not caring.
My response would have been, that's exactly what we were discussing: having children to "choose" between pleasure now and maybe pleasure in distant future. Doesn't have anything to do with me.
We're investigating. It will take at least a couple days, because we'll need to meet with the founders in person. FWIW, the install window Patrick overlaid on top of InstallMonetizer's site in that screenshot is not actually InstallMonetizer.
We're investigating. It will take at least a couple days, because we'll need to meet with the founders in person. FWIW, the install window Patrick overlaid on top of InstallMonetizer's site in that screenshot is not actually InstallMonetizer.
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You may be right about the industry as a whole, but I'm betting you're wrong about this particular instance based on what I know about PG and YC. When I was reading the original TC article, I was thinking that there is actually an incredible opportunity here to create a legitimate ad network that would allow desktop developers to monetize similarly to how it's done on the web - to basically become the DoubleClick of…
You can downvote people? how?