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Did porn warp me forever?

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Re: Did porn warp me forever?

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Post by papsosouid »

gopi wrote: post #290
papsosouid wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, because if someone claims something might be bad for them, we should restrict access for everyone! By the way, hacker news makes me slack off at work, so I'm looking forward to the law that forces ISPs to block it by default.

I am not worried about the adults but Kids who can now easily access all the pervert filth's of the world (many times accidently). BTB, I am not talking about blocking porn, just users should go through a password wall. Also the users should be able to change this default setting if they like. This is not much different from the password protection for adult content offered by many cable tv companies.

You seem to have conveniently missed the point. What you randomly decree is "filth" and what someone else randomly decrees is "filth" aren't the same. There is no reason to believe that porn is bad, hence no reason for you to be deciding who can access it and who can't. Your position is just as detestable as people who would want access to any non-christian religious material restricted.

Re: Did porn warp me forever?

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Post by guard-of-terra »

dkarl wrote: post #57
jacoblyles wrote: post #41

There's a part of the paleo subculture that avoids porn as an unnatural superstimulus. See http://yourbrainonporn.com/ or http://www.reddit.com/r/nofap Anecdotally, I find their arguments compelling.

Alain de Botton has written about it, too: "A brain originally designed to cope with nothing more tempting than an occasional glimpse of a tribesperson across the savannah is lost with what’s now on offer on the net at the click of a button: when confronted with offers to participate continuously in scenarios outstripping any that could be dreamt up by the diseased mind of the Marquis de Sade. There is nothing robust…

"who might once have had a peek inside Playboy or caught a preview of a naughty film on the television channel of a hotel"

This does not go well with the fact from OP article that every boy after ten is exposed to hardcore pornography on the internet. If it's true, people who "once have had a peek" do not exist and the author of the article you quoted fools us.

Having said that, my main reaction to that kind of reasoning is on the lines of "We're going to watch porn anyway, you won't stop us (and by us I mean everyone) and that's what we are going to do boo hoo. So what can you do? With your religion schmeligion and morals schmorals? Even if we hurt us in the process, so what? You can't do anything about this."

Seriously, he's like a parent who thinks he's going to tell us what to do. But he doesn't have any ways to make us listen. And no ways at all to affect the situation. So why bother at all?

Re: Did porn warp me forever?

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Post by tomjen3 »

_ddkb wrote: post #85

I know this is outing myself but this is my personal experience. I won't post anonymously in case anyone wants to contact me. I came to the realization about 2 years that I am addicted to porn. For anyone out there struggling with the same thing, it can get better and yes, it is probably having a negative influence on your life. Previously I would look about once per week but in the past 6 months, I have probably vie…

How did you end up on the conclusion that you were addicted, as opposed to a user of, porn?

Re: Did porn warp me forever?

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Post by MartinCron »

papsosouid wrote: post #283
MartinCron wrote: post #280

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The expectation of politeness is a meaningful social norm, not just a personal opinion. Also, politeness and civility isn't the same as false amiability. You can (and should) give firm rebuttals in a civil way. There's nothing false about it.

The expectation of politeness as a meaningful social norm does not apply to con artists.

I see where you're coming from, but I disagree. We absolutely should be polite and civil to con artists, charlatans, schemers, scammers, phonies, bronies, and quacks. When you coarsen the dialogue, it negatively impacts everyone in the community, not just the con artist.

Re: Did porn warp me forever?

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Post by papsosouid »

MartinCron wrote: post #294
papsosouid wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The expectation of politeness as a meaningful social norm does not apply to con artists.

I see where you're coming from, but I disagree. We absolutely should be polite and civil to con artists, charlatans, schemers, scammers, phonies, bronies, and quacks. When you coarsen the dialogue, it negatively impacts everyone in the community, not just the con artist.

I don't think so. Con artists take advantage of people's unwillingness to confront them and the desire to remain "polite" and "pleasant". They benefit from it. On the other hand, it most certainly does not negatively impact everyone in the community for people to be blunt with con artists. You may feel it negatively impacts you, but it doesn't negatively impact me.

Re: Did porn warp me forever?

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Post by MartinCron »

papsosouid wrote: post #295
MartinCron wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see where you're coming from, but I disagree. We absolutely should be polite and civil to con artists, charlatans, schemers, scammers, phonies, bronies, and quacks. When you coarsen the dialogue, it negatively impacts everyone in the community, not just the con artist.

I don't think so. Con artists take advantage of people's unwillingness to confront them and the desire to remain "polite" and "pleasant". They benefit from it. On the other hand, it most certainly does not negatively impact everyone in the community for people to be blunt with con artists. You may feel it negatively impacts you, but it doesn't negatively impact me.

I guess I am not being clear. I totally advocate confronting con artists. I even agree that there is a moral imperative to call out con artists. I just think it can and should be done in a civil way.

I don't want to hang out at a place where people are yelling, even if they aren't yelling at me.

Re: Did porn warp me forever?

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Post by illuminate »

_ddkb wrote: post #85

I know this is outing myself but this is my personal experience. I won't post anonymously in case anyone wants to contact me. I came to the realization about 2 years that I am addicted to porn. For anyone out there struggling with the same thing, it can get better and yes, it is probably having a negative influence on your life. Previously I would look about once per week but in the past 6 months, I have probably vie…

http://thehumanist.org/july-august-2012/you%E2%80%99re-addic...

This is probably worth your read. Even if you disagree, your "addiction" is being shoehorned into the disease model and the unhealthy patterns don't necessarily meet the same standard.

Re: Did porn warp me forever?

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Post by illuminate »

jjhicks wrote: post #266
true_religion wrote: post #191

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I've heard this theory before, but I feel as if were it true we would already have a long series of old wives tales of how the 'studs' are always morose, and its better for newly weds to abstain on occasion rather than follow their flush desires. The orgasms gotten through pornography aren't any stronger than those found 'in nature'---this isn't heroine.

QUOTE -The orgasms gotten through pornography aren't any stronger than those found 'in nature'---this isn't heroine. You have missed the entire point. Orgasm lasts a few seconds. Porn addiction is not about orgasms its about porn. The viewing, searching, clicking from tab to tab on tube sites. Starting in early adolescence, training ones brain to need a certain level of stimulation. For some - hours a day. Dopamine r…

"Porn addiction is not about orgasms its about porn. The viewing, searching, clicking from tab to tab on tube sites. Starting in early adolescence, training ones brain to need a certain level of stimulation. For some - hours a day."

This is more obsessive-compulsive behavior than porn-specific.

Re: Did porn warp me forever?

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Post by illuminate »

MartinCron wrote: post #294
papsosouid wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The expectation of politeness as a meaningful social norm does not apply to con artists.

I see where you're coming from, but I disagree. We absolutely should be polite and civil to con artists, charlatans, schemers, scammers, phonies, bronies, and quacks. When you coarsen the dialogue, it negatively impacts everyone in the community, not just the con artist.

There is no dialogue with sociopaths, nothing constructive but to figure out how to waste less time and energy on them in the future.

Every minute spent trying to get anything back is a minute you will never have back.

Re: Did porn warp me forever?

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Post by illuminate »

guard-of-terra wrote: post #288
gopi wrote: post #256

This comment may be down voted here. But i think there is a case to be made for a new law that mandates the ISP's to password protect all porn websites by default.

And in a few days we'll figure that every site The Man does not like is considered a porn site. And is "protected" from you. Pirate Bay and other trackers, for example.

I'm sure that user is just fine with such abuses.
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