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AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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You don't need better missile defense than AWS. You don't need missile defense at all because you won't be a target. 99.999999% of the land has no missile threat on it. You are actively increasing the threat to your business by running it on the same servers that military contractors run their software on.

In a war where schools and bridges and aid convoys and bread lines are targeted, anyone should consider themselves a valid target. It's true that you are less likely to be a target than a state-sponsored tech megacorp's data centers, but the risk is still present.

Risk is always present, We quantify it for a reason and then we mitigate if it's beyond a level we are comfortable.

Living is risk, every time I go to the shop for milk there is a non-zero chance I don't come back but the risk is so low I don't worry about it.

Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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What's you point? That if you had run your own DC in that region (because that was your business requirement) then you'd have better missile defense than AWS? Or maybe AWS or DIY, you are always responsible for geographic diversity? Anyone losing data over this lost it because they'd literally told AWS to only store it in one place.

> What's you point?

Not the OP, but the point is that decentralized infrastructure is a lot more resilient to attacks of any kind.

Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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This is the flipside of data residency requirements that countries are now starting to require. If the EU wants to keep data in the EU, then great, but when the war comes and energy and infrastructure are hit, people would have wished for backups in North America, Asia, and the middle east.

War did not randomly came. America intentionally caused it. And has lawless goverment and unaccountable tech industry making it bad place for data.

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Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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I think this is due to the data residency requirements in UAE. I'm working with a client in the health space and the government requirements requires me to store data only in UAE! Tried with AWS but they were not allowing any new instances and I had to go with Azure.

Hi, I'm from the future. You might want to consider storing the data somewhere besides an Azure datacenter in the UAE.

> the government requirements requires me to store data only in UAE!

Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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No disaster recovery plan? No offsite backups? Someone failed to applied the most basic principles that have existed for decades.

The more dramatic contingency you have to plan for, the more expensive the plan gets. Earlier this week I mentioned that if we lose enough data centres to bring our operation down, the first items in the to-do list becomes securing weapons, vehicles and fuel.

I had the same discussion with a manager about the backups of financial contracts for cleaning school facilities.

He just couldn't get past the notion that if the six copies in four buildings across two states were all simultaneously physically destroyed, then most likely there are also no more schools left standing, and hence the contracts to clean them are null and void. Also, payment is now in booze and ammunition, not dollars.

Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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Backups in a different region?

Works unless local laws specifically block you doing that which they do for some classes of data in some countries. Multi-cloud in the same country (if that exists in the country and is far enough apart) maybe .

Do cloud providers even share data center locations so you can assess the "far enough" bit yourself?

Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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Hi, I'm from the future. You might want to consider storing the data somewhere besides an Azure datacenter in the UAE.

> the government requirements requires me to store data only in UAE!

turns out reading comprehension skills have still not gotten better in the future

Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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This is the flipside of data residency requirements that countries are now starting to require. If the EU wants to keep data in the EU, then great, but when the war comes and energy and infrastructure are hit, people would have wished for backups in North America, Asia, and the middle east.

data residency requirements in the EU don't categorically exclude data storage in other countries. The EDPB explicitly recognizes encrypted backups, for example, as valid as long as the keys remain in the EU and there's a secure transfer mechanism (p. 30) exactly for reasons such as disaster recovery.

https://www.edpb.europa.eu/system/files/documents/2021-06/ed...

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