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AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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Post by vkou »

culi wrote: post #45
knorker wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's you point? That if you had run your own DC in that region (because that was your business requirement) then you'd have better missile defense than AWS? Or maybe AWS or DIY, you are always responsible for geographic diversity? Anyone losing data over this lost it because they'd literally told AWS to only store it in one place.

You don't need better missile defense than AWS. You don't need missile defense at all because you won't be a target. 99.999999% of the land has no missile threat on it. You are actively increasing the threat to your business by running it on the same servers that military contractors run their software on.

In a war where schools and bridges and aid convoys and bread lines are targeted, anyone should consider themselves a valid target.

It's true that you are less likely to be a target than a state-sponsored tech megacorp's data centers, but the risk is still present.

Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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Post by jameshart »

curuinor wrote: post #3

They guaranteed 11 9's durability, didn't they? e: Yep https://aws.amazon.com/s3/storage-classes/

The footnote which says that is the design durability against equipment failure literally begins:

> In the unlikely case of the loss or damage to all or part of an AWS Availability Zone, data in a One Zone storage class may be lost. For example, events like fire and water damage could result in data loss

Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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Post by jeremyjh »

Art9681 wrote: post #18

No disaster recovery plan? No offsite backups? Someone failed to applied the most basic principles that have existed for decades.

That isn't recovery from AWS's point of view. If the customer has data in another region, thats great for them but AWS isn't really a part of that, AWS doesn't know which data is fungible in every case. Sure they have some data is replicated, what they can't recover is the data THEY do not replicate.

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Post by noir_lord »

NegativeLatency wrote: post #27
michael-bey wrote: post #20

What a nightmare scenario to tabletop. How do you even begin to recover from something like this?

Backups in a different region?

Works unless local laws specifically block you doing that which they do for some classes of data in some countries.

Multi-cloud in the same country (if that exists in the country and is far enough apart) maybe.

Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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Post by nixass »

Art9681 wrote: post #18

No disaster recovery plan? No offsite backups? Someone failed to applied the most basic principles that have existed for decades.

Offsite to.. where? Sea? Data residency in Gulf states is very strict and basically nothing is leaving the countries

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Post by SmirkingRevenge »

It was always a bad bet for billionaires like Bezos to become Trump enablers. You weren't buying a seat at the table, or the privilege of being left alone, you were just signing yourself up to be force-fed shit sandwiches over and over (And the shit-to-bread ratio gets worse as time goes on)

You should have used your considerable resources to fight. If only billionaires would oppose aspiring tyrants with the same zeal with which they oppose even minor tax increases.

Re: AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

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Post by noir_lord »

shitloadofbooks wrote: post #48
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #14

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Can you post the specs on your missile defense system for your home lab? How are you dealing with the rise of low-cast swarm attacks from drones? Is it land-based, sea-based or space-based and at what point of the trajectory do you target and do you use jamming?

Eh I get your point but would point out that distribution does mitigate the risk here, having all your data in DC's that can be seen from space also isn't a panacea when your next door neighbour targets them in retaliation for what your ally did.

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Post by jackb4040 »

rishikeshs wrote: post #41

I think this is due to the data residency requirements in UAE. I'm working with a client in the health space and the government requirements requires me to store data only in UAE! Tried with AWS but they were not allowing any new instances and I had to go with Azure.

Hi, I'm from the future. You might want to consider storing the data somewhere besides an Azure datacenter in the UAE.
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