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Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by peterldowns »

vertigoruntime wrote: post #158
peterldowns wrote: post #118

How did this new account `vertigoruntime` get three posts on the front page, all in the last day? - This post - The DeepMind Institute https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49727659 - Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49723408 based on their account submission history they have a 25% hit rate (!) Seems very, very weird.

I just have RSS feeds of news in AI circles that may be cool, built an entire tracker around it - helps me pick up new stuff on time !

What made you just start posting on HN? Welcome and thanks for the links!

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by [deleted] »

natsucks wrote: post #170
peterldowns wrote: post #118

How did this new account `vertigoruntime` get three posts on the front page, all in the last day? - This post - The DeepMind Institute https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49727659 - Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49723408 based on their account submission history they have a 25% hit rate (!) Seems very, very weird.

I question all the time what dictates the posts I see on the front page every day, and whether or not it's truly based on organic interest. i wish i could say i up/down vote frequently but i do not and i wonder if that's true for most people.

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Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by Centigonal »

felixrieseberg wrote: post #46

Hi, this is my team! Happy to answer any questions. There's a lot in this launch, but the core idea is to simplify the product while giving users access to more capabilities. You no longer need to know ahead of time how much work a conversation might involve. If you're at your computer, Claude can use your local files and apps. If you close your laptop, Claude can keep working on its own computer. This launch also le…

How are you determining how much oomph Claude gives a particular question? When I ask Claude Chat to e.g. summarize a document, it does this and returns a summary inline, whereas cowork does a bunch of tool calls and intermediate steps, eventually writing a document to disk. How does new claude know how deep to go?

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by runj__ »

stymaar wrote: post #160
arionhardison wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is valid. 1. each one is a first-party vendor announcement, submitted very close to the announcement and under the vendors headline. 2. Titles are "verbatim" vendor headlines. No editorializing which follows HN guidelines to the letter. 3. Someone; a script/agent is watching vendor feeds and X accounts then submitting within minutes of the posting. 4. Altman/Navier–Stokes post got [duped] so prob not inside thin…

High frequency karma farming.

Their scraper is physically really close to the internet building!

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

idle_zealot wrote: post #49
royal__ wrote: post #8

These kinds of updates always have this romantic scenario of someone having Claude develop a presentation or something on their way to work between multiple devices, which actually feels a little sad and does not align with what happens in my life at all.

This is a nightmare scenario to me. "Claude, prepare me a presentation on XYZ." I get to work, go straight to the meeting room, and pull up what it made to present. It's barely coherent nonsense. Lots of irrelevant details, buzz words, wrong charts or confusing phrasing. Obviously LLM output. I read it out. When I'm done, I get a question about one of Claude's incorrectly inferred details. The shame instantly kills m…

PowerPoint Karaoke used to be a fun distraction; now it's literally people's job.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by andrewaylett »

firmretention wrote: post #54
steve1977 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sometimes get very different answers if I ask the chat product the same question multiple times.

Isn't that expected since LLMs are inherently non-deterministic?

LLMs are inherently deterministic. The way everyone deploys LLMs leads to non-deterministic results, but there's nothing† stopping providers from offering deterministic evaluation if they choose.

All the sources of randomness are under the control of the provider, even if today's deployment structures mean providers introduce extra randomness due to the concurrent nature of the evaluation. Serialise the computation, feed it from a pRNG, and you have a fully deterministic result. But providers don't want to offer a deterministic result, and especially not one as fragile, expensive, and inefficient as a full serialisation would be.

†: For variants of "nothing" that include cost and deployment challenges.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by jiri »

throwaway2027 wrote: post #3

I'm starting to explore alternative options because Claude has become an awful value proposition. Any suggestions?

I would like to have alternative to chat - model and provider agnostic (BYOK), but with history, project, maybe memory, with good search and quality tools. I know openwebui and i dont want to host it.
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