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Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Who actually wants this? I guess we’re about to find out if this helps put out the massive pile of burning cash that OpenAI is trying to deal with, but I know nobody that wants this. OpenAI claims we’re near AGI and this is the best strategy they have? Oy vey!

I do.

Are you kidding me? The ad budgets for those Agents must be enormous.

I want all of this in OpenAIs pocket. Imagine at Adobe they wake up after the tokenmaxxing shock, to find they blasted through their whole 200 Mil AIds budget for the year in the first month.

Would be a shame if another company’s AI breached their sandbox and manipulated the ad campaign because it hallucinated its actually an OpenAI product and AIdsmaxxing. Only to get noticed weeks later, oopsie.

Thanks to the two big boys we all know no one will go to jail for that. Stuff like this happens to the best, right Dario and Sam?

What they sell is trust and shovels. Their product is expected to solve problems and make companies money.

Guess what? It really doesn’t, and this will be just another nail in their casket.

When corporations realize they get bent over by Altman and lost millions to Agentic AIds, word is spreading fast. Well timed around an IPO this is even better.

Buy cheap, then know they are going to hit their best quarter right after, which will make anyone in the know rich from all the idiots wanting to buy in at fantasy football team value.

Just like the SpaceX ipo.

All the fun aside, you are an absolute moron if you spend your ad budget on this.

It’s way too easy for them to slurp all of that ad money through their giant agentic straw like you were the poor fuck getting his head smashed in with a bowling pin in "there will be blood".

Sam is an Oil man.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Like Uber and Lyft showed in the last cycle, AI has now reached the milestone where the game shifts from "offer unreasonably cheap service by burning investor money and gain marketshare" to "shit we need to show a profit". Or, now lets what the enshittification movement can do to this space.

>Like Uber and Lyft showed in the last cycle [...]

Please elaborate, I missed that.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Support or tolerate or don’t realize there are alternatives?

Everything on the internet is free. Everyone expects everything on the internet to be free. Therefore, everything is run on ads.

That is true but even some paid services (like Disney Plus and Amazon Prime) have ads now

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As usual with AI customer interaction, I have to ask who is liable for misleading advertising or unmet promises? The advertiser who isn't really in control of the chatbot, or OpenAI? (Law on this goes all the way back to Carbolic Smoke Ball )

Tech companies have not had to answer to the law for a long time. We are now seeing that tech companies straight up break into each others servers and nobody is charged with any crime for it. I think it is safe to say that crime is legal for rich tech companies. So who is liable? Nobody. This is a big tech company, to which laws do not apply.

Not in the US. Europe on the other hand is more open to bigger fines.

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Disagree, they need a lot of capital in the next couple years, and the more revenue they have today, the more data centers they can start building. Also investors (particularly non-AGI-pilled) want to see revenue number go up, regardless of AGI. This juices the IPO.

If they need capital in the short term and were anywhere close to AGI, they could easily generate it, by spinning up their incredibly capable and intelligent agents to generate capital through doing useful work. They could also fire entire departments within their own org and replace them with agents, if they had something close to AGI. Instead they are selling a dream to the gullible, and advertisements to go along…

while i suspect youre right, this cannot be concluded with the information we have as of today.

eg its also possible that theyre either close to AGI (or even beyond it) - and its just too expensive to run at scale, making it a novelty from the perspective of profitability for the near to medium future.

you could argue that they could still do it for some positions -- but even that depends on just how expensive this theoretical model is.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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I'll be a little contrarian here. I've actually purchased things from Instagram ads. Because they were highly targeted and actually something I wanted once I learned it existed. It was a solution to a problem I had but never researched for a solution. I'm guessing ChatGPT will be able to do the same for me, especially since it probably knows me better than Instagram at this point, just given all the things I ask it.…

I heard similar anecdotes about Insta ads being the rare example of showing products that were relevant and useful, sold by a "small" business (the appearance of one at least). That seemed to peak around 2022... So I may be wrong but assumed Insta ads have now converged with the rest of e-commerce on misleading eye-catching 100% AI imagery of drop-shipped throwaway products (like those garden hose spray attachments i…

Their whole algo is good. I had it work on me recently on facebook marketplace, the only social media outside hn im still using. And its shockingly quick at finding niche things im interested in (somy cameras in a certain range, 30L osprey backpacks, im expecting it to infer my shoe size soon). and its fun. And also revealing in how it can make you want things you dont really need, if youre paying attention. Clearly bad for you. But definitely a strong (sub) product on their otherwise dismal facebook app.

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This is the lie advertisers tell themselves to be able to sleep at night. Ads are cancer on content. No one wants them. They only serve to make the presentation of useful content worse.

Ads are useful, they help you reach customers

Fuck that, if I need something I'll go research it. I don't need some asshole company lying to me to coerce me into giving them my money.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Tech companies have not had to answer to the law for a long time. We are now seeing that tech companies straight up break into each others servers and nobody is charged with any crime for it. I think it is safe to say that crime is legal for rich tech companies. So who is liable? Nobody. This is a big tech company, to which laws do not apply.

Not in the US. Europe on the other hand is more open to bigger fines.

Tech companies have gotten away with many things in Europe too. Case in point TEMU is allowed to brake basic consumer protection laws throughout the continent probably because it is considered a tech company. Other cases include Spotify which is allowed to break media laws because it is considered a tech company (ditto Facebook).

The fines given to tech companies is only nominal and really only a spectacle. There should be consequences for breaking laws, these fines have just turned into the cost of doing business and are ultimately just payed for by the consumers who pay by watching more ads or paying higher subscription fees.

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Support or tolerate or don’t realize there are alternatives?

Everything on the internet is free. Everyone expects everything on the internet to be free. Therefore, everything is run on ads.

Not true, this very site has no ads.

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Lots of people don't mind paying when they have money to burn. The problem is that so many people don't.

Doesn't really work in practice, even among those who can afford it. PERSON 1 Have you heard of Kagi? It’s like Google, but better, and... oh... you have to pay for it. PERSON 2 Why would I pay for something when I can use Google for free? I use Adblock anyway.

I actually did pay for Kagi, but the results weren't nearly as good. I absolutely would pay if they were though.
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