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Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Who actually wants this? I guess we’re about to find out if this helps put out the massive pile of burning cash that OpenAI is trying to deal with, but I know nobody that wants this. OpenAI claims we’re near AGI and this is the best strategy they have? Oy vey!

If you don’t want it then just pay for ChatGPT. If you’re angry about it and ALSO don’t want to pay then I’m sure OpenAI doesn’t mind losing you as a customer.

> If you don’t want it then just pay for ChatGPT.

That will work until it very suddenly doesn't. The industry is awash in paid Internet-delivered advert-free services that suddenly got adverts stuck in them.

And no, if you're in the US getting a refund for breach of contract won't likely be an option unless your contract explicitly permits you to terminate the contract and receive a refund for the unused time. At least one court has determined that adding adverts to a contracted service -in the middle of most contract periods, rather than at renewal time- that was explicitly advertised as advert-free and requiring contractees to pay an additional like 3 USD per month to remove these new adverts wasn't a breach of contract or a price increase, but was rather a "change in subscription benefits" and was A-OK.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

#143

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Ads are useful, they help you reach customers

The fact that ads are one of two types of content for which people regularly install blockers (with porn coming second) speaks volumes about how useful they really are.

You're both right. Some people hate ads. Some people find ads (usually well-targeted ads) helpful for discovering new things that could help them. Different people find different things helpful / intolerable.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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HN lives in a bubble. I am certain many people will happily use these.

All but you, buddy boy. Right?

Some people have more diverse backgrounds than others, both in total or relative to a particular subject.

A lot of people are making factual universal claims about ads in this thread that are directly contradicted by my personal experience talking to people.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

#145

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If you don’t want it then just pay for ChatGPT. If you’re angry about it and ALSO don’t want to pay then I’m sure OpenAI doesn’t mind losing you as a customer.

> If you don’t want it then just pay for ChatGPT. That will work until it very suddenly doesn't. The industry is awash in paid Internet-delivered advert-free services that suddenly got adverts stuck in them. And no, if you're in the US getting a refund for breach of contract won't likely be an option unless your contract explicitly permits you to terminate the contract and receive a refund for the unused time. At lea…

> That will work until it very suddenly doesn't.

Exactly. Once upon a time, cable didn't have ads, which was its primary advantage. Then they realized that they could charge money for the service and advertise to you.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

#146
post #18

How else are they to monetize text outputs? This was always the plan and it's going to get much worse (or better depending on which side of the fence you're on). Google did the same thing when it controlled web indexation: ads, sponsored results and SEO. All of these things will be coming to agents: you will be monetized or you will be paying not to be.

> you will be monetized or you will be paying not to be.

Or you’ll be paying and being monetized.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

#147

I wish ads never existed. The future is open source, no subscriptions, no purchases, 100% free and community supported. The sooner software gets to this point, the world will be a much more better place rather than everything being a subscription.

“I want someone to work for me but I don’t want to pay them” is exactly the kind of mindset that led to ads everywhere.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Everything on the internet is free. Everyone expects everything on the internet to be free. Therefore, everything is run on ads.

Lots of people don't mind paying when they have money to burn. The problem is that so many people don't.

Doesn't really work in practice, even among those who can afford it.

PERSON 1 Have you heard of Kagi? It’s like Google, but better, and... oh... you have to pay for it.

PERSON 2 Why would I pay for something when I can use Google for free? I use Adblock anyway.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

#149
post #22

Who actually wants this? I guess we’re about to find out if this helps put out the massive pile of burning cash that OpenAI is trying to deal with, but I know nobody that wants this. OpenAI claims we’re near AGI and this is the best strategy they have? Oy vey!

I'll be a little contrarian here. I've actually purchased things from Instagram ads. Because they were highly targeted and actually something I wanted once I learned it existed. It was a solution to a problem I had but never researched for a solution. I'm guessing ChatGPT will be able to do the same for me, especially since it probably knows me better than Instagram at this point, just given all the things I ask it.…

I heard similar anecdotes about Insta ads being the rare example of showing products that were relevant and useful, sold by a "small" business (the appearance of one at least).

That seemed to peak around 2022... So I may be wrong but assumed Insta ads have now converged with the rest of e-commerce on misleading eye-catching 100% AI imagery of drop-shipped throwaway products (like those garden hose spray attachments in a tacticool pistol design or giant mugs).

Is that not a problem yet?

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

#150

Here we go again.. Tell me a story of when a service introduced ads and that ended up being a great thing for users ? Because I don't know any. Instead I know many stories where ads poisoned and destroyed the service and turned the Internet into a shit show. Oh, but in this case, dystopia is highly unlikely, right ?

Many users of the Super Bowl find entertainment in the displayed advertisements.
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