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Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by Dylan16807 »

post-it wrote: post #179
Dylan16807 wrote: post #148

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What appeals to you about a normal watch that a smart watch fails to satisfy? And what specifically do you mean by normal?

I like to look down at my wrist and see the time down to the second, and my Apple Watch S7 can't deliver on that. Either the screen doesn't light up, or it lights up after a second or so, or it lights up but it's showing me the Smart Stack or an old notification instead of the watch face. And the screen fades quickly and hides the second hand (my girlfriend's S10 shows the second hand when the screen is dimmed, so th…

So that's all valid but those are pretty much all reasons to not want a smart watch, or it failing to do its basic job. When you talked about not wanting two watches, I thought you meant that even if you had a smart watch you liked, you'd still want a normal watch on top.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by louthy »

ratmice wrote: post #172
louthy wrote: post #170

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I use the Pump Club app when lifting, it has the day's programme to follow: I simply enter the reps after each exercise. It never occurred to me that I'd want to automatically track reps. I mean, it could be kinda useful, but I'm also taking 45 to 60 seconds cool-down between exercises anyway, so it's not like it gets in the way. That also moves the app onto the next exercise in the programme. It's manual, but it's n…

I wasn't wading into the watch/ring debate, never used a ring just a watch. Was just saying while heart rate data might not be the most useful. There might be uses for other sensors and reasons to replace the ring with a watch while lifting...

Fair enough.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by catigula »

muti wrote: post #164
catigula wrote: post #10

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A health and fitness tracker that cannot be worn during a common health and fitness activity seems highly problematic as a form factor, especially since competing form factors do not have this problem.

Not necessarily common, but I imagine most form factors would have issues with _some_ activities. I have a fitness watch that I don't like wearing when rock climbing. A ring also isn't suitable, but an armband worn further up would be.

It’s a little intellectually disingenuous to compare something you don’t like wearing during a niche sub categorical activity to a category of tracker you CANNOT wear during a categorical activity.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by post-it »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #181
post-it wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like to look down at my wrist and see the time down to the second, and my Apple Watch S7 can't deliver on that. Either the screen doesn't light up, or it lights up after a second or so, or it lights up but it's showing me the Smart Stack or an old notification instead of the watch face. And the screen fades quickly and hides the second hand (my girlfriend's S10 shows the second hand when the screen is dimmed, so th…

So that's all valid but those are pretty much all reasons to not want a smart watch, or it failing to do its basic job. When you talked about not wanting two watches, I thought you meant that even if you had a smart watch you liked, you'd still want a normal watch on top.

I like the data collection features of smart watches.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by rtkwe »

ratmice wrote: post #166
rtkwe wrote: post #154

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I suppose, if counting to low double digits is difficult for you?

Not really the point. If you make program with a bunch of different exercises, and are modifying your program a lot, it can be a pain to keep track of what your next exercise should be. If you are automatically tracking reps, it can just announce whatever the next thing in your program is, and start rest timers automatically... It's not really about tracking reps as much as tracking where you are in a program that it…

If you're modifying your program a lot a ring isn't going to help you remember your rep count for that day either. Yes a watch can display that but we're talking about rings here that can't and could only count reps and there's no vibration or speaker on the ring to notify you so you'd need your phone there anyways and could just look at it at the start of the set and count.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by quickthrowman »

addaon wrote: post #137
wongarsu wrote: post #109

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Thinner skin, so you can in theory get better sensor readings. And you don't have to convince people to give up the watch they already own. Selling somebody who owns a $4000 watch another watch is an uphill battle that requires Apple watch levels of sophistication, selling them a ring is a lot easier I also find the cost of the Oura outrageous. But getting the $450 smart ring instead of the $20 smart ring from aliexp…

> Selling somebody who owns a $4000 watch another watch is an uphill battle I’d wager the future lifetime spending of someone who owns a $4000 watch on other watches is at least one and maybe two orders of magnitude greater than the general population.

I agree with you, but I believe the person you responded to meant that someone with an expensive mechanical watch doesn’t want to wear a smart watch in place of their mechanical watch (and double wristing looks silly). As someone with an expensive mechanical watch who wants to wear that instead of an Apple Watch, I agree with them.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by quickthrowman »

GJim wrote: post #171
Supermancho wrote: post #3

None of these 3 problems have anything to do with it being a smart ring. Same problems that regular rings have, yet people still wear them. 1. Adulting: buying rings that are the right size. eg My tungsten wedding ring cannot be resized either. 2. Most people don't even lift. Those that do, dont mind taking off jewelry. I can see how this would be a problem for someone who wants to wear a smart ring for lifting. Soun…

> My tungsten wedding ring You do realise that in the (admittedly unlikely) event that needs to be cut off in the Emergency Department, they wont have a chance?

Place the tungsten ring against concrete, hit the top of the ring gently with a hammer and increasing the force with each hammer blow until the ring cracks.

Search YouTube for “break tungsten ring” for examples.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by godelski »

MaxikCZ wrote: post #130
godelski wrote: post #90

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Don't look up how they get removed from your finger at the ER

I looked it up and seems they just bash it with hammer? What are you eluding to?

It is difficult to get off. If they can't smash it, they remove the finger. But if your ring gets caught you lose your glove. The one made of skin

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by ratmice »

rtkwe wrote: post #186
ratmice wrote: post #166

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Not really the point. If you make program with a bunch of different exercises, and are modifying your program a lot, it can be a pain to keep track of what your next exercise should be. If you are automatically tracking reps, it can just announce whatever the next thing in your program is, and start rest timers automatically... It's not really about tracking reps as much as tracking where you are in a program that it…

If you're modifying your program a lot a ring isn't going to help you remember your rep count for that day either. Yes a watch can display that but we're talking about rings here that can't and could only count reps and there's no vibration or speaker on the ring to notify you so you'd need your phone there anyways and could just look at it at the start of the set and count.

I wasn't really talking about just rings, the comment I was replying to was talking about heart rate sensors. I'm saying it's still worthwhile replacing your ring with a watch.

Even if it is just for swiping or pressing buttons to switch between exercises in your program. But there are other uses for accelerometers.

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