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Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by mikestorrent »

in_absentia wrote: post #99
ak6te wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely nuts that this thing wouldn't be engineered so that at least a swelling battery causes the exterior to split so that the swelling is directed out rather than in.

It is understandable in some narrow sense because you want the outer surface to be nick-resistant, so you need to make it out of reasonably thick metal. Plastic rings would look terrible after a couple of weeks. But it's really hard to justify the big picture. It's hundreds of bucks + a monthly subscription for... what, exactly? Why does this need to exist? If you really want to gamify your pulse and sleep patterns f…

> It's hundreds of bucks + a monthly subscription for... what, exactly?

Once upon a time I thought this kind of thing would be needed for accurate hand tracking for VR applications, in lieu of a full glove, but it seems to not be a major use case.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by SturgeonsLaw »

fuzzy2 wrote: post #101
feistypharit wrote: post #57

What I don’t think I’ve seen anyone mention yet. If the internal batteries swell you are now in a very bad situation. https://cybernews.com/gadgets/samsung-galaxy-smart-ring-batt...

Wdym "seen no one mention"? This case was so much "all over the news" it might as well have been a psyop. And yet it was exactly one case.

We're all in our own filter bubble my friend, there is no the news any more

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by Ancapistani »

phyzome wrote: post #85
happyopossum wrote: post #71

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In a hospital setting nobody will be degloving your finger - this is a common situation, and they have pliers that will crack/shatter the tungsten for removal.

I'm guessing that strongly depends on how big the hospital is. I know someone who lives out in the boonies and it's amazing what isn't on hand.

I live in a town of <15k people, and it’s the county seat. Our hospital can handle tungsten carbide rings without issue. I checked before getting one for this very reason (though I now wear an Oura as my wedding ring).

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by muti »

catigula wrote: post #10
Supermancho wrote: post #3

None of these 3 problems have anything to do with it being a smart ring. Same problems that regular rings have, yet people still wear them. 1. Adulting: buying rings that are the right size. eg My tungsten wedding ring cannot be resized either. 2. Most people don't even lift. Those that do, dont mind taking off jewelry. I can see how this would be a problem for someone who wants to wear a smart ring for lifting. Soun…

A health and fitness tracker that cannot be worn during a common health and fitness activity seems highly problematic as a form factor, especially since competing form factors do not have this problem.

Not necessarily common, but I imagine most form factors would have issues with _some_ activities. I have a fitness watch that I don't like wearing when rock climbing. A ring also isn't suitable, but an armband worn further up would be.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by in_absentia »

addaon wrote: post #137
wongarsu wrote: post #109

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Thinner skin, so you can in theory get better sensor readings. And you don't have to convince people to give up the watch they already own. Selling somebody who owns a $4000 watch another watch is an uphill battle that requires Apple watch levels of sophistication, selling them a ring is a lot easier I also find the cost of the Oura outrageous. But getting the $450 smart ring instead of the $20 smart ring from aliexp…

> Selling somebody who owns a $4000 watch another watch is an uphill battle I’d wager the future lifetime spending of someone who owns a $4000 watch on other watches is at least one and maybe two orders of magnitude greater than the general population.

I think the parent is talking about wearing two watches. But I'd guess that the overlap between people who like expensive (almost always synonymous with mechanical) watches and who want achievements for sleep patterns is pretty minimal. It's almost like a statement of two different life philosophies.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by ratmice »

rtkwe wrote: post #154
ratmice wrote: post #94

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The data should be useful for automatically counting reps...

I suppose, if counting to low double digits is difficult for you?

Not really the point.

If you make program with a bunch of different exercises, and are modifying your program a lot, it can be a pain to keep track of what your next exercise should be.

If you are automatically tracking reps, it can just announce whatever the next thing in your program is, and start rest timers automatically...

It's not really about tracking reps as much as tracking where you are in a program that it is useful for...

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by mastermage »

in_absentia wrote: post #99
ak6te wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely nuts that this thing wouldn't be engineered so that at least a swelling battery causes the exterior to split so that the swelling is directed out rather than in.

It is understandable in some narrow sense because you want the outer surface to be nick-resistant, so you need to make it out of reasonably thick metal. Plastic rings would look terrible after a couple of weeks. But it's really hard to justify the big picture. It's hundreds of bucks + a monthly subscription for... what, exactly? Why does this need to exist? If you really want to gamify your pulse and sleep patterns f…

Some people just do not like wearing a wristwatch. I would sleep with a ring i would not sleep with a wristwatch

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by mastermage »

King-Aaron wrote: post #150
thenthenthen wrote: post #143

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Was thinking about how many people willingly stuff lithium batteries in their ears, but have never read about an accident

I've seen someones vape catch on fire while they had it in their mouth

Well to be fair they are already willingly ingesting harmful materials.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by mastermage »

villgax wrote: post #53

I just want an HID emulator I can flick into my palm and send keyboard/mouse/trackpad events to whatever Bluetooth device I want.

Ok so the Mudra Link (aka the Meta Neural Band) is like in a way that. You can actualy get it and connect it without needing Meta Glasses.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by louthy »

ratmice wrote: post #166
rtkwe wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose, if counting to low double digits is difficult for you?

Not really the point. If you make program with a bunch of different exercises, and are modifying your program a lot, it can be a pain to keep track of what your next exercise should be. If you are automatically tracking reps, it can just announce whatever the next thing in your program is, and start rest timers automatically... It's not really about tracking reps as much as tracking where you are in a program that it…

I use the Pump Club app when lifting, it has the day's programme to follow: I simply enter the reps after each exercise.

It never occurred to me that I'd want to automatically track reps. I mean, it could be kinda useful, but I'm also taking 45 to 60 seconds cool-down between exercises anyway, so it's not like it gets in the way.

That also moves the app onto the next exercise in the programme. It's manual, but it's not intrusive and can't be wrong, like a fitness tracker, that definitely can be. So shrug, just personally, auto-tracking reps isn't something I need and wouldn't be a big selling point for a band/watch over a ring.

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