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Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by villgax »

pazimzadeh wrote: post #77
villgax wrote: post #53

I just want an HID emulator I can flick into my palm and send keyboard/mouse/trackpad events to whatever Bluetooth device I want.

Same. The Even Realities R1 ring looks interesting, but only works with their glasses.

My form factor is more like a micro joycon but sits on your wrist like a fitness band & if you flick it hard enough the magnetic thingy will just come into your palm, do whatever like scroll, delete/archive emails, close tabs etc & then flick it back onto your wrist for it to attach magnetically

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by ck2 »

I don't think consumers would accept this but for athletes there has been some research that the EARLOBE might be the ultimate single point for measurement

They can even measure blood pressure in lab tests during MOVEMENT at the earlobe

Heartrate, spO2, temperature and it's even a good location for very low level of sound to be heard

Again consumers would never adopt an earlobe cuff, well maybe it was artistic somehow and not heavy/distracting

But athletes would use whatever works

If I had millions I'd invest in development, so steal this idea?

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by pessimizer »

dhosek wrote: post #86
dcss_gardener wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people do not wear tungsten wedding rings. A wedding band can be resized and it's typical to have it resized several times during a long marriage. This is a legitimate downside of smart rings that is only shared with one niche-but-overrepresented-here option.

Odd, I was married for almost twenty years during which I think I took off my ring twice (maybe not even that much—if I recall correctly, I persuaded the surgical staff to tape my ring rather than have me remove it when I had surgery). Never had to resize it and it fit fine the whole time. I don’t know what lifestyle leads to a finger changing size dramatically during the lifespan of a smart ring.

> I don’t know what lifestyle leads to a finger changing size dramatically during the lifespan of a smart ring.

Are you pretending that you are unaware that this can happen, or are you showing contempt for people who gain or lose weight? I don't find either useful.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by ratmice »

rtkwe wrote: post #80
pastor_williams wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lifting weights definitely causes your heart rate to change.

Of course it does but it's barely relevant to the goals of the exercise though so tracking it is minimally useful beyond the vague curiosity of cataloging and measuring every moment.

The data should be useful for automatically counting reps...

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by canucker2016 »

spike021 wrote: post #63
striking wrote: post #2

I also really quite like the Fitbit Air. I used to wear a Galaxy Watch but there's something really freeing about how light and unobtrusive this little wristband is.

I recently (June) bought an Air too to replace my 5 or 6 year old Apple Watch. I'm enjoying it for the same reasons. Longer battery life. More comfortable when I'm sleeping since it has no buttons or weird bulky shape. I do wish Apple would make their own version of it with apple pay.

Too bad the Google Health app (which is required for FitBit devices since Google retired the FitBit app) is getting mostly 1 and 2 star (out of 5) reviews on the Google app store.

The reviews were ~90% 1 & 2 star within the first month of the FitBit Air release.

Three months later, the app has improved to ~80% 1 & 2 star reviews. At this pace, they'll be on v3 of the device when app reviews are decent...

They force everyone to move over to a different app when the replacement app doesn't have all the features/reliability of the old app.

Genius.

Garmin released the Cirqa band at $199 w/o compulsory subscription a few weeks ago. I may switch to that if the FitBit Air acts up.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by illegalsmile »

itsmeduncan wrote: post #30

I was an early adopter of Oura, and have recently stopped wearing it. I've reverted to the Apple Watch & EightSleep for all of the tracking I could ever need. I found the experience with Oura to be overly optimistic numbers wise, as well as borderline dark patterns in the app to drive my anxiety around getting good scores.

How has all your data changed your sleep and do you think you could have made changes without that data?

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by wiether »

ck2 wrote: post #92

I don't think consumers would accept this but for athletes there has been some research that the EARLOBE might be the ultimate single point for measurement They can even measure blood pressure in lab tests during MOVEMENT at the earlobe Heartrate, spO2, temperature and it's even a good location for very low level of sound to be heard Again consumers would never adopt an earlobe cuff, well maybe it was artistic someho…

AirPods already do HRM and some people already put random stuff on their ears

There was a trend of non-diabetic people wearing huge glucose monitoring patches on their arms

I don't see how an earlobe cuff would be a deterrent for non-athletes with the right marketing

And marketing it's all the rage since those people don't need those gadgets in the first place

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by stuff4ben »

The OP mentions he switched to a Google FitBit Air which seems like an elastic cloth band which is all I want too, except I want it to operate like an Apple Watch in terms of integration with Apple Health. Anyone know if the FitBit Air and Apple Watch are similar in features?

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by in_absentia »

ak6te wrote: post #70
feistypharit wrote: post #57

What I don’t think I’ve seen anyone mention yet. If the internal batteries swell you are now in a very bad situation. https://cybernews.com/gadgets/samsung-galaxy-smart-ring-batt...

Absolutely nuts that this thing wouldn't be engineered so that at least a swelling battery causes the exterior to split so that the swelling is directed out rather than in.

It is understandable in some narrow sense because you want the outer surface to be nick-resistant, so you need to make it out of reasonably thick metal. Plastic rings would look terrible after a couple of weeks.

But it's really hard to justify the big picture. It's hundreds of bucks + a monthly subscription for... what, exactly? Why does this need to exist? If you really want to gamify your pulse and sleep patterns for some inconceivable reason, a phone or a wristwatch can collect the same information in a more practical and safer way.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by Clent »

bluGill wrote: post #78
dpark wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would a tungsten band increase the chances of degloving your finger? A tungsten band is a lot harder than a gold band. But a gold band is already way harder than your flesh. Jimmy Fallon was wearing a traditional platinum band when he nearly lost his finger. If you want to reduce your risk, you should either not wear a ring or wear a silicone band.

Steel toed work boots are almost never allowed to have a steel toe anymore. It is always plastic which is just as strong but it shatters when it breaks so they don't have to uncrush that once they get whatever fell on your toes off. There are some rare exceptions for specific jobs, see OSHA (or your country equivalent) for the exact rules that apply to you.

This isn't remotely true. Steel is absolutely still allowed. The steel toe is designed to collapse without crushing the toe. When that happens, the boot needs to be replaced.

There are composites which are fiber based but those aren't labelled as steel toes, they aren't designed to shatter and it's not plastic.

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