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Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by alt227 »

harrisoned wrote: post #70
frumplestlatz wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it “so wrong” to meet your audience where they are?

The same reason is wrong to require a Google or Apple phone to exercise basic civil duties within government services. You are gating the service, or information, behind a 3rd party ToS, a login, and basically stating that you are not allowed to have it until you hand over personal data to such companies.

I've made this same comment several times now.

To live in our 'free' western society, you need to register your birth, get a social security number, and attend state dictated education.

Life in general is now gated, and if you do not abide by the rules you do not get the benefits of society. How is this any different to "you are not allowed to have it until you hand over personal data".

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by account42 »

WarmWash wrote: post #297
trey-jones wrote: post #221

Regardless of the legality of the service: I always use xcancel instead of X. I don't have a twitter account and I don't want to sign in. I just occasionally want to read what some people had to say about something. Even this is usually a mistake. It's probably better taken as entertainment. My point is: companies stop making your product suck, and people won't have a reason to try and fix it for you.

The problem companies have is that "doesn't suck" generally means "it's free with no ads". The internet has this innate expectation that everything digital be totally free and have no form of tracking or ads, or if it does have ads/tracking, that you are trivially capable of blocking them while still totally enjoying the service/product. xcancel, archive, whatever are all tools almost solely meant to access monetized…

The "content" in twitter largely isn't monetized, only the platform profits via rent seeking on other people's writings.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by simondotau »

mitxela wrote: post #959
simondotau wrote: post #956

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. It's always publicly readable; 2. It is not reliant on any singular corporation, or trusting any singular corporation. 3. The established domain name system proves authenticity. And of course the information can still be posted to X, etc.

1 is untrue, 2 is untrue, 3 is the same as x.com

1 is true: if you control the web server, you control whether the content is published as readable by anonymous visitors.

2 is true: if you disagree, provide the name of that singular corporation. To be clear, you're always relying on corporations, but there's no single gatekeeper.

3 is not the same: if I see something published on "www.water.dcceew.nsw.gov.au" I can be reasonably confident that it is published by my local Government. If I see an X account of @NSWDCCEEW_Water then I need to start looking for context clues, most of which can be faked.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by rob74 »

pwg wrote: post #285
rob74 wrote: post #99

Maybe instead of trying to get rid of services that provide a more convenient access to X to non-logged-in users, they should realize that there is a real market behind these services - users that will likely never sign up to X, but who want to read/watch some content without the incessant nagging and limitations that X subjects non-logged-in users to?

> without the incessant nagging and limitations that X subjects non-logged-in users to That is directly the result of the evil pull of advertising. "Logged in" users are more valuable than "non-logged in" users to advertisers (because logged in ones are identified) and so what you are seeing as "nagging" is Shitter (formerly X, formerly Twitter) desperately trying to increase its ad revenue at your expense. You are w…

Actually you can write "Xitter" ("x" is pronounced "sh" in the standard transliteration of Chinese and many other languages, although most of them are not really widespread, like Basque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_alphabet and Maltese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_alphabet).

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by account42 »

WarmWash wrote: post #629
Dylan16807 wrote: post #600

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And when the creator decided to make that free to access, it's improper for a company to throw up a wall in front of it.

I think you might be confused, because any creator can make their content free to access. If they are playing in someone else's house, yeah there might be rules they don't like, but it's also not their house. Nothing stops creators from self-hosting and absorbing the full cost themselves.Yt doesn't even care if you link to your own hosted version of the video on their platform.

It used to be that when your house is the size of a city or even country that it isn't just your house anymore and you don't get to set the rules on your own. When a platform becomes big enough it should be treated more like a utility and a startup.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by redeeman »

Plont wrote: post #769
redeeman wrote: post #757

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then your understanding seems to be quite limited :)

what even was the point of typing that? it just reads as kindergarten bully on an ipad.

dont see how its bullying? someone is demonstrating a very childish point of view , almost to the point of preaching. which I would say a little bit of critical thinking says is otherwise. why else would so many want xcancel in the first place?
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