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Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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People said Devin, the AI coding agent, was garbage in 2024. Now it's weird if an agent isn't writing 99% of your code. So you're right to be skeptical as of September 2026. But September 2028? It might just be weird to run companies without AI management.

First rule is AI cannot make a management decision

Because it cannot be held liable

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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> I am somewhat surprised to see some of the errors current models make given their intelligence They have no intelligence. These are very very very refined prediction engines. > A common set is having Claude take some product photos and turn them into lifestyle ones using ChatGPT via Claude in Chrome. It's a pretty well-honed workflow at this point, but it'll still return images where the product is obviously not co…

> They have no intelligence. These are very very very refined prediction engines. "Very refined prediction engine" is not a bad working definition for intelligence. It is not the only component you need, but it might be the most important over-all capability. If its making lots of errors, its not doing a very good job of predicting the outcome of its actions.

It's a terrible definition of intelligence. Intelligence is far more than just predicting things based on a massive set of similar things. We do do pattern recognition, but I don't need to have seen 10k dogs to be able to recognize a dog. And it's not a difference of degree, either. "Meaning" is something I am able to derive from my experiences, and it is not something an LLM does or will ever be able to do (nor is training data even analogous to having experiences in any way shape or form.)

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Really interesting experiments that are actually geared towards how these models interact with the "real" world.

It seems to me that we are on the fast ramp to making the paperclip maximizer a reality. imo the most likely "dystopian" future that we'll get to see. These models have no concept of their RL env sandboxes and the real world. Extremely interesting to see how they compete in trying to get finite resources and work with constrained supply chains.

An interesting experiment to be sure.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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I don’t think this is true at all. Maybe if you have an agent writing some of your code it will be 99% because its so verbose but I don’t think the modal software engineer is a vibecoder.

If you think that all instances of using AI to write code is vibe coding and you can't even spell model you might not last much longer

“Modal” is a word. The AI brainrot is real.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Is this actually cost-effective versus hiring a few humans? Seems like a huge amount of tokens in use.

I think it's more of an experiment at this point. We don't know whether it's viable or not.

Did you respond on your alt account or are you answering for the top-level poster for some other reason?

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Out of all the people I know, the exact same set of people are in to LLMs now who were previously into: NFTs, then Crypto before that, then Online Poker before that, then Dropshipping and LeadGen before that. The Venn diagram circles overlap exactly.

Right. Scroll back on their X timelines and you see it. The only thing I can say about LLMs is that we might end up with some broad, stable utility from them, when the dust settles. The only thing crypto is really good for is hiding the source of impermissible donations.

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Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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People said Devin, the AI coding agent, was garbage in 2024. Now it's weird if an agent isn't writing 99% of your code. So you're right to be skeptical as of September 2026. But September 2028? It might just be weird to run companies without AI management.

I don’t know a single developer who has an agent write 99% of their code. Is that the norm outside of my bubble?

My whole company (I hate it).
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