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Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Post by theptip »

itake wrote: post #372
theptip wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get your point, but it’s obvious that everybody is going to do this. So building a benchmark isn’t likely to directly move capabilities. OTOH it might give some good signals on required changes in training recipes.

People are still debating the liabilities associated with AI development. If your agent hacks the CIA, people want to blame the AI lab. but... If your agent spends $100k on tokens, then thats a user error. If your agent spends $10m on a shopping spree, then that is also a user error?

Yes, of course? Put a spend cap on your card like you would on your API key.

At some point these systems will get certified as fiduciary agents but they sure as hell aren’t claimed to be that now.

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Post by eloisius »

layla5alive wrote: post #318
_hugerobots_ wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It took a very unrealistic amount of time to realize that the IP theft, artificial blockers and corruption had started a lot earlier than presumed. The Nortel dismantling should be taught as an example of infoSec espionage on the levels of corporate terrorism.

Can you elaborate? I don't think this is a well known topic at all

I think they’re talking about how Huawei got their start

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Post by KPGv2 »

jamilton wrote: post #186
idopmstuff wrote: post #155

I am in the process of attempting to have AI run my business. I'm actually making very good progress, but it's happening in pieces - I document some task and have it take over, or I give it something to handle while staying in the loop and providing feedback until it's in good shape. At this point it's handling large swathes of my operations, marketing and finance. The experience of getting it there makes me pretty s…

For anything visual, they are still effectively blind, right? Still just working off the image embedding, sometimes using scripts to actually inspect individual pixels.

no. I just used Gemini to update a website I'm managing for a charity, and one of those steps involved Gemini, on its own, offering to scan the website for one of our beneficiaries, specifically the header images, to see if there was more information to include in our writeup about the beneficiary. And it did it quite well.

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Post by aurareturn »

nullbio wrote: post #400

Meanwhile, I can't even get Astra to consistently re-use the same font-size across all of my HTML page headings+subheadings. There's just no world where this actually results in a stable, respected business. It will be death by a thousand bad impressions, mistakes and oversights. Yeah, you can automate everything. That doesn't mean it's being done well. That's not to say this might not be something feasible in 2-3 ye…

People said Devin, the AI coding agent, was garbage in 2024. Now it's weird if an agent isn't writing 99% of your code.

So you're right to be skeptical as of September 2026. But September 2028? It might just be weird to run companies without AI management.

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Post by steve-atx-7600 »

nullbio wrote: post #400

Meanwhile, I can't even get Astra to consistently re-use the same font-size across all of my HTML page headings+subheadings. There's just no world where this actually results in a stable, respected business. It will be death by a thousand bad impressions, mistakes and oversights. Yeah, you can automate everything. That doesn't mean it's being done well. That's not to say this might not be something feasible in 2-3 ye…

Same. But, yeah, I guess companies are "solved" now just like software engineering.

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Post by bootsmann »

aurareturn wrote: post #405
nullbio wrote: post #400

Meanwhile, I can't even get Astra to consistently re-use the same font-size across all of my HTML page headings+subheadings. There's just no world where this actually results in a stable, respected business. It will be death by a thousand bad impressions, mistakes and oversights. Yeah, you can automate everything. That doesn't mean it's being done well. That's not to say this might not be something feasible in 2-3 ye…

People said Devin, the AI coding agent, was garbage in 2024. Now it's weird if an agent isn't writing 99% of your code. So you're right to be skeptical as of September 2026. But September 2028? It might just be weird to run companies without AI management.

I don’t think this is true at all. Maybe if you have an agent writing some of your code it will be 99% because its so verbose but I don’t think the modal software engineer is a vibecoder.

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Post by weird-eye-issue »

bootsmann wrote: post #407
aurareturn wrote: post #405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People said Devin, the AI coding agent, was garbage in 2024. Now it's weird if an agent isn't writing 99% of your code. So you're right to be skeptical as of September 2026. But September 2028? It might just be weird to run companies without AI management.

I don’t think this is true at all. Maybe if you have an agent writing some of your code it will be 99% because its so verbose but I don’t think the modal software engineer is a vibecoder.

If you think that all instances of using AI to write code is vibe coding and you can't even spell model you might not last much longer

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Post by sfn42 »

nullbio wrote: post #400

Meanwhile, I can't even get Astra to consistently re-use the same font-size across all of my HTML page headings+subheadings. There's just no world where this actually results in a stable, respected business. It will be death by a thousand bad impressions, mistakes and oversights. Yeah, you can automate everything. That doesn't mean it's being done well. That's not to say this might not be something feasible in 2-3 ye…

> can't even get Astra to consistently re-use the same font-size across all of my HTML page headings+subheadings.

This is just basic software engineering. DRY. Define the style in one place and reuse it.

This is also why you need a human in the loop, you need to make these kinds of design decisions and tell it to do stuff like this. Otherwise you're just building a pile of trash and you'll keep having these dumb easily avoidable issues.

Humans have the exact same problem. If you want a consistent solution to a problem, solve it once and reuse it. Otherwise it won't be consistent.

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