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Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Post by andrekandre »

kfse wrote: post #122
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #67

Businesses presumably sell things. If AIs get good enough to run a business autonomously then what are they selling that I can't just use AI to make myself?

That actually has a simple answer, for most businesses it's not that you can't do what your suppliers do for you, it's that you'd rather use your resources (time and capital) towards something else because that's where they generate the most value. For a simple example, I know how to make sandwiches but if I'm throwing a customer event I just want to buy them from a catering company. Then they have to deal with buyin…

  > I still wouldn't want to put in the capital resources towards it.
do these ai-startups require a lot of capital?

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Post by jryle70 »

amiune wrote: post #178

If you create two companies competing with each other both with Pion. Which one wins?

Adidas and Puma, created by brothers, have been fierce competitors, dirty even, for 80 years. Who do you think the parent rooted for?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassler_brothers_feud

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Post by 2001zhaozhao »

switchbak wrote: post #52
piterrro wrote: post #31

Interesting to see these experiments. This is early but imagine in few years there will be companies mostly run by agents with a light overview from a human operator. What then happens to scaling of the bussinesses? I would assume, just like today anyone can vibe code an app, there will be vibecoded bussinesses. Maybe its time to start building infrastructure for these bussinesses instead, its a non existent market y…

Part of the issue is that the worst kind of people are already head over heels excited about this. We're already seeing the Crypto->Web3->LLM get rich quick folks take to this like wildfire. And much like wildfire, they'll raze the ground to ashes before anyone can use it for legitimate means. If you think I'm joking, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Rqv9dOB1U I don't think any of us are ready for th…

Part of me low key hopes that the slop will manage to attract all the VC funding so that profit-driven AI automation firms don't get anywhere too quickly, and those of us who are independently working on the problem step-by-step from first principles have time to get to the low hanging fruits in the market.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Post by _hugerobots_ »

KingOfMyRoom wrote: post #179
switchbak wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was at ground zero at Nortel during that time. Quite an interesting (depressing?) place to be at the very start of your career!

Anything you can share about this time?

It took a very unrealistic amount of time to realize that the IP theft, artificial blockers and corruption had started a lot earlier than presumed. The Nortel dismantling should be taught as an example of infoSec espionage on the levels of corporate terrorism.

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Post by refactor_master »

razster wrote: post #277
owebmaster wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really think AI can automate distribution, marketing, sales? That's just spam.

Oh my friend, it can. We have ours running and using unique skills it learns from online. You allow it to update skills and see what works - from there it just keeps building better and better skill sets.

Until everybody’s AI talks to everybody’s AI and tokens will be churned with no utility, and all the valuable business meetings will happen face to face behind closed doors.

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Post by mw888 »

switchbak wrote: post #52
piterrro wrote: post #31

Interesting to see these experiments. This is early but imagine in few years there will be companies mostly run by agents with a light overview from a human operator. What then happens to scaling of the bussinesses? I would assume, just like today anyone can vibe code an app, there will be vibecoded bussinesses. Maybe its time to start building infrastructure for these bussinesses instead, its a non existent market y…

Part of the issue is that the worst kind of people are already head over heels excited about this. We're already seeing the Crypto->Web3->LLM get rich quick folks take to this like wildfire. And much like wildfire, they'll raze the ground to ashes before anyone can use it for legitimate means. If you think I'm joking, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Rqv9dOB1U I don't think any of us are ready for th…

Oh please. Not only is this needlessly cynical but it demonstrates no ability to think for yourself. "Broad categories I don't like are excited about this, therefore it won't work."

Of course you'd feel no need to justify all the exceptions when people you don't like are excited about a movie, food item or video game. Yuur justification for cynicism is vacuous, which will obscure realistic concerns.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Post by andai »

piterrro wrote: post #31

Interesting to see these experiments. This is early but imagine in few years there will be companies mostly run by agents with a light overview from a human operator. What then happens to scaling of the bussinesses? I would assume, just like today anyone can vibe code an app, there will be vibecoded bussinesses. Maybe its time to start building infrastructure for these bussinesses instead, its a non existent market y…

This infrastructure is already being built. There is finally a serious demand for microtransactions.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Post by andai »

switchbak wrote: post #52
piterrro wrote: post #31

Interesting to see these experiments. This is early but imagine in few years there will be companies mostly run by agents with a light overview from a human operator. What then happens to scaling of the bussinesses? I would assume, just like today anyone can vibe code an app, there will be vibecoded bussinesses. Maybe its time to start building infrastructure for these bussinesses instead, its a non existent market y…

Part of the issue is that the worst kind of people are already head over heels excited about this. We're already seeing the Crypto->Web3->LLM get rich quick folks take to this like wildfire. And much like wildfire, they'll raze the ground to ashes before anyone can use it for legitimate means. If you think I'm joking, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Rqv9dOB1U I don't think any of us are ready for th…

It would truly be a sad day if I had to experience unsatisfying content.

I hope such a day never arrives.

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