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How long is that comfortable? For sure not couple of hours in 1 go
Valve thought of that. Its got a 1 hour battery life and you have to wait 3-5 hours for it to charge back up!
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It's still VR. It's still niche. There are still many issues that VR hasn't solved (and may never solve). - You still have to wear a device on your head - You still (can) get motion sickness and/or headaches - There is still not a lot of great content around VR - Many people still prefer the flat screen medium and content The openness/closeness is only one of the many issues this solves, and it doesn't matter when al…
The motion sickness in particular is something that's been mostly solved by using non-stick locomotion, like Gorilla Tag ( https://store.steampowered.com/app/1533390/Gorilla_Tag/ ). Both the 'big name' developers and the various flat-to-VR mod makers still insist on stick locomotion, though, even though that actively makes the experience worse.
Most games are human-centric, so until we're able to move around using our legs & feet, stick locomotion is still the preferred way to get around in a human-centric simulated environment.
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You can even run Half-Life Alyx on Steam Frame itself (standalone mode), albeit at around 36FPS according to Tested https://youtu.be/C9JyWAVj94E?t=3330
36 FPS makes running it on the device a rather theoretical possibility for a VR game.
At basically quest 3 levels of on device performance, this thing better have amazing software. This price is way too high. Our expectations have been warped by Meta's decade long subsidization of VR hardware
Am I paying $1000 for a minor improvement? Yes. It's a hobby. It costs money sometimes. I don't do this for nearly anything else, like phones that other people seem fine for paying $1000 every other year. I expect this device to last until another 6 years when I can justify spending another $1000 on another iterative improvement. Similarly, I may spend $1000 on a new setup for simracing soon.
Spending $6k on a gaming PC, a VR headset, and wheels and pedals is an experience you otherwise cannot get. I would spend money on VR even if it only worked with one or two driving games and nothing else. For those of us in that niche, VR has been anything but a "Failure", that business people seem convinced it is because it couldn't be the next "Platform" to put an app store on.
But, that's the market for VR. It's a niche toy for people with expendable income. It's not a mass market to rival the smartphone.
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It is designed to stream wirelessly from a powerful computer too
I’m shocked that this is performant enough to work in practice. Isn’t the timing window for VR responsiveness extremely tight?
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It's still VR. It's still niche. There are still many issues that VR hasn't solved (and may never solve). - You still have to wear a device on your head - You still (can) get motion sickness and/or headaches - There is still not a lot of great content around VR - Many people still prefer the flat screen medium and content The openness/closeness is only one of the many issues this solves, and it doesn't matter when al…
The motion sickness in particular is something that's been mostly solved by using non-stick locomotion, like Gorilla Tag ( https://store.steampowered.com/app/1533390/Gorilla_Tag/ ). Both the 'big name' developers and the various flat-to-VR mod makers still insist on stick locomotion, though, even though that actively makes the experience worse.
I often wonder how common this is. As in, how many people consider motion sickness in VR a problem specifically because they only ever experienced it with these workarounds applied, and then never even found out that actual normal movement (which their brains might be completely used to from years of video games) would have been completely problem free for them.
I want this for one reason and one reason only: DCS. Anyone know how well it works/doesn't work yet? I've waited for years to get a VR heads for DCS (its a flight simulator folks) .. and now, maybe, this is it.
Something to keep in mind that a lot of simmers (DCS specifically) don't get when they want to jump into VR: Once you hit the advanced 3rd Gen or any 4th Gen fighter or attack aircraft (essentially anything where you go "heads down" for any significant portion of the aircrafts mission profile) VR becomes more of a liability than an asset. For those aircraft being a pilot is secondary to being a systems operator. Thin…
Lower volume with consumers fully covering the device cost will probably become the norm, which doesn't bode particularly well for this industry (at least in the short term)
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If you enjoy DCS give VTOLVR a shot as well. Fantastic fun. https://store.steampowered.com/app/667970/VTOL_VR/
IMO VTOL VR is better than DCS in VR (albeit unavoidably more arcade-y) because it's designed for VR first, while DCS's screens and labels are much more difficult to read given the limited resoultion
As in, it's totally possible to have completely clear text on DCS screens and labels even with an older lower res headset like the Valve Index, as long as you render the game at a sufficiently high resolution (via SteamVR settings or similar).
Just wanted to point this out, since a lot of folks aren't aware how drastically increasing the render resolution (even far past the native HMD panel resolution) affects image clarity.
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I don’t know. I can’t even take a nap while having my glasses on, so the thought of lying down with a much weightier VR headset pressing down on my face doesn’t sound super comfortable.
I know lots … and lots … of people that sleep in VR. I don’t know how they do it either, but there we are! This product doesn’t look half bad for sleeping in VR for people that are used to doing so with other headsets. Definitely easier than some offerings.
Funny how demographics work. I don't know a lot of people who use VR. In fact I don't know a single person who is remotely interested in ehat looks to me and my friends like a very niche technology.