I'm yet to see a true agent that can you can delegate things to (besides coding agents!), that you can deploy, customize, and let them interact with stuff (integrations?) in a straight-forward way.
Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
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#202On one hand, folks here seem quite skeptical of the idea, and are pointing out some obvious flaws. On the other, the announcement post… also seems quite skeptical of the idea, and devotes a lot of text to the ridiculous things their AI’s have done. I’m slightly confused as to why they would release it in that case. But if nothing else it will give them more wackiness to blog about.
You reminded me of a comic hanging up in the engineering college. It was a picture of a student getting their finger zapped with the thought bubble of "ouch, that hurt. Wonder if it will happen if I do that again?" And the caption was along the lines of "How to tell if you are ment for engineering."
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#203I can’t quite believe this isn’t parody.
It feels like parody because it’s something similar but worse: delusion.
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#204I suspect this is the future of most businesses. Even today, one person can effectively replicate Microsoft from the early 2000s.
You say that, yet who has?
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#205There was surprisingly little information on how they actually do this, but we run our business with a large number of, what we call "AI employees" in addition to regular employees, and they act in interesting ways. We've been building out orchestration tools to handle this, and we'll probably do a write-up or blog post on it soon. May even open source some of it. The preview is that the problem with most agents (and…
This is fascinating. What is the split between human and AI labor? What kinds of tasks are the bots doing? How much autonomy do they have to make decisions (i.e. spending money, issuing refunds, touch cloud infra, etc)? I'd love to learn more about how you do this.
Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#206There was surprisingly little information on how they actually do this, but we run our business with a large number of, what we call "AI employees" in addition to regular employees, and they act in interesting ways. We've been building out orchestration tools to handle this, and we'll probably do a write-up or blog post on it soon. May even open source some of it. The preview is that the problem with most agents (and…
What worries me most are questions like this: these autonomous AI employees or automations - it doesn't change the essence - consume a lot of LLM tokens. Please tell me, how do you pay for this? Do you use, for example, the Anthropic or OpenAI API directly, or do you connect, for example, a Codex subscription?
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#207Since all the ex-blockchain, ex-web3.0, ex-whatever-gets-you-rich-in-a-day bros seem to be here and teeming in full now-AI mode, it's an apt occasion to express my most profound
fuck you
to you all.
Keep on the good grift!
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#208I wish we could go just one day without a company proudly engaging in Torment Nexus related activities.
TormentNexus.site
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#209Andon has dashboards up for past experiments where you can see how well they're doing: https://andonlabs.com/market - $25,098 all-time revenue https://andonlabs.com/cafe - $14,343 all-time revenue The shops aren't doing particularly well (i.e. they don't seem to be turning a profit over time), but it's an interesting trial and benchmark.
Am I right of the token expending is +4K?
It’s way more. Look at the all time chart.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
My apologies for taking the article at face value. It’s not hard to believe it would have been sent when agent swarms are “accidentally” hacking real websites and being brushed off as little oopsies. Or when Silicon Valley execs have been so flagrant about their disregard for the law or the safety of others.
You didn’t take the article at face value. You overlooked the part where they were clearly pointing out the absurdity of the “report” and went straight into scold mode, across at least four comments. That’s clearly against the HN guidelines.
I genuinely did. They briefly classified it as “weird” behavior and mentioned that it was “famous” which apparently is only true for the inside circle. I’ve never heard of the incident, and I’d bet 90% of the human population hasn’t either. You are likely privy to more information than me, and I’m not sure it’s fair to assume that I should’ve had the same outside context. I admit I reacted unfairly, but it’s also a tad snarky to post a Google search at someone.