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Silicon Valley is transforming the military-industrial complex? (2024)

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Post by klipt »

antonvs wrote: post #388
klipt wrote: post #189

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What is the obsession with equating the Holocaust with a war whose death toll is roughly 1/100th of the Holocaust (and that only if you include combatant deaths, which the Holocaust numbers do not?)

The point is not the body count. The point is the attempted perpetration of genocide, by people who have been the target of genocide in recent history. As I said, it's mystifying that the conclusion from being targeted for genocide is "...therefore we must commit genocide against others." I suppose it is consistent with biblical commandments, though.

Citation needed that people are thinking "therefore we must commit genocide against others"

Attempted genocide better describes Hamas, who slaughtered a 1/4 of the civilians in the first villages they got their hands on, before being pushed back.

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Post by lbrito »

MisterTea wrote: post #399
lbrito wrote: post #277

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I'm not saying China is perfect, but its not unreasonable to entertain the possibility that it might be better than what we've suffered for the last century. Okay, Taiwan. They are the losing side from the Chinese civil war from over half a century ago and proclaim themselves as the true Chinese government. I'm not saying China has the right to crush them, but the tension is at least understandable. A comparison with…

Presently Xi is focused on growing China and doing a great job of it. But what happens when Xi is gone? Once China reaches its goal and is the worlds manufacturing source, how will it use its influence to obtain resources? We already see China deploying debt traps and surveillance technology to developing nations. They are building surveillance states which feed back into China. With that, I feel that we have yet to…

We don't know. Only years in the future, with the benefit of hindsight, will we be able to conclude something.

What we do know right now is that the US has been a poor hegemony, inflicting a century of suffering around the world, and China has not. They might end up being worse, but given the last hundred years of history, I find that unlikely.

I'll take the risk of surveillance and debt traps a thousand times over something like Operação Condor.

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

laimewhisps wrote: post #178
1234letshaveatw wrote: post #82

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I would go so far as to call it a privileged perspective

I don't think the tens of thousands of innocent people, including a huge number of children, were "privileged". Same with the hundreds of thousands removed from their home during the Nakba ethnic cleansing.

a huge number of American children working for an American tech company? interesting

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

laimewhisps wrote: post #176
1234letshaveatw wrote: post #37

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TIL an intelligence agency spying on a foreign adversary is human rights abuse. I would be super upset if my country of residence did the same to a neighbor sending rockets my way, would make me sick to my stomach

Israel is not the US and Palestinian civilians are not a "foreign adversary". > a neighbor sending rockets my way, would make me sick to my stomach Israel has been murdering Palestinians since Nakba. They literally eliminated whole cities in Gaza. I think that makes most people in the world sick to their stomach.

Yes, casualties of the war initiated by continuous Hamas terrorist attacks that culminated on October 7th. Sad

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Post by megous »

lovich wrote: post #293
megous wrote: post #284

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Israelis can't carpet bomb. They don't have the tech. Are you saying 10's of thousands of bombs US supplied to level the entire cities and countryside to the ground is preferable to IL having to get this elsewhere, because why exactly? What does precision have to do with it? You can scroll around here to see what US did by providing all those mostly free bombs: https://earth.google.com/web/@31.31022959,34.24130746,30…

> Israelis can't carpet bomb. They don't have the tech. What? I’m not even responding to the rest if this is how you open up. Carpet bombing is so low tech I can’t imagine a country in the modern age that couldn’t create the technology even if they couldn’t afford actually deploying it. It’s a matter of logistics and having enough bombs. It’s literally just dropping a fuck ton of dumb bombs on an area to “carpet” it,…

So where are the Israeli bombers? Nowhere. All they have is fighter-bombers, which are quite limited. And clearly they don't even have the bombs. Otherwise why the need for US to send them 10s of thousands of bombs for free in early months of the genocide?

Not enough for anything close to what WW2 or Vietnam war like area bombing operations were done with.

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