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Global shortage has led to motor oil rationing at Costco

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Post by 6SixTy »

ebbi wrote: post #147
6SixTy wrote: post #87

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Remember that the US is it's own market with different regulations and has a complicated history with imports, so no Hilux. Though it does look like the Ranger is externally the same between NZ and US. I'm not counting maybe 1mm as different. I am somewhat familiar with a Ute since I've seen Subaru Bajas before. Not old enough to see Subaru Brats around or El Caminos. It does seem like those people are emulating Amer…

My comment wasn't necessarily to talk about model parity across markets - more to highlight the growing trend of people buying large utility vehicles with a tray as a fashion statement (for lack of a better term) than for its utility. > "a lot of those mods are passable without certification" Not true. Besides the bush lights, any changes in suspension and wheel size require a certification, with a LVVTA cert plate a…

My bad, I meant in the US.

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Post by cityofdelusion »

ffsm8 wrote: post #92
what-the-grump wrote: post #25

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It does, plenty of things inside the EV require all kinds of oils, just the maintenance cycle isn't gallons and gallons every x months. You are looking at years. I got service centers trying to rotate my tires every 3k miles because "ev". The oil change as well, oh you need to change oil every 5k because... because why?

Bought a old Nissan juke in 2021 - built in 2011. Haven't had to change or refill oil once. Ymmv

Motor oil is a wear product with a lifespan. It will become saturated with microscopic particles of metal and end up with lower lubricity. You are just slowly grinding away all the metal off the moving parts. Eventually the tolerances will fail, usually a rod bearing, leading to self-destruction of the motor.

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Post by taneq »

eks391 wrote: post #134
LeBit wrote: post #61

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What do you think is the % of people having F150 that really do need F150?

As someone who does not own an F150 (or any truck), I find myself frequently wishing I had a truck, and either borrowing a friend with a truck, renting a truck, or doing some really unsafe things with my hatchback while muttering with my wife that our next car with be a truck. If we had a truck, what % of the time would we be using it for things that can only be done with a truck? Very little, since it would also be…

As someone who until last year has only had (mostly sports) cars or motorbikes, I now have a ute and it’s awesome to be able to do ‘ute stuff’ with it. Carrying toolboxes, transporting large/heavy/dirty cargo, collecting firewood, going off-roading and camping. I use it way more than I thought I would.

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Post by OptionOfT »

I wonder if this will change how often people in the USA change their oil.

Comparing BMWs (which are worldwide cars), the oil change intervals in Europe are literally 2x what they are in the USA.

E.g. my previous 2019 M240i (B58 i6):

Europe: every 30,000km or 2 years, whatever comes first.

USA: every 15,000km (~9,000 miles) or 1 year, whatever comes first.

I get that fuel is dirtier in the USA. I get that engines work harder in the USA because of the heat, but a 2x reduction in lifetime?

And this is applicable to ALL the BMWs I've seen.

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Post by nickpeterson »

margalabargala wrote: post #122
ffsm8 wrote: post #92

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Bought a old Nissan juke in 2021 - built in 2011. Haven't had to change or refill oil once. Ymmv

I mean technically you never need to change the oil on any car if you're willing to just drive it into the ground.

I wonder how long a full synthetic could run in an engine that, for whatever reason, doesn’t push oil hard. 20k miles?

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Post by SkyPuncher »

ffsm8 wrote: post #92
what-the-grump wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does, plenty of things inside the EV require all kinds of oils, just the maintenance cycle isn't gallons and gallons every x months. You are looking at years. I got service centers trying to rotate my tires every 3k miles because "ev". The oil change as well, oh you need to change oil every 5k because... because why?

Bought a old Nissan juke in 2021 - built in 2011. Haven't had to change or refill oil once. Ymmv

“I haven’t brushed my teeth, but I don’t have a cavity - so I’m good”.

Don’t get me wrong, my “fun” car (an old, beat up Jeep) is going on 2 years with the same oil (I barely drive it), but I known I need to change it soon.

Oil degrade with oxygen. Every time you drive that car, the oil are being re-oxygenated and continuing to degrade (along with being exposed to combustion byproducts).

Also, the type of wear you get often isn’t noticeable until it becomes catastrophic. In my case, a 30 year old car that’s already on its last legs “catastrophic” is more like “time to finally drag it to the scrap yard”.

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Post by diydsp »

dietr1ch wrote: post #95
diydsp wrote: post #82

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Liters are not SI units. Metric isn't magic. It's not ergnomic nor designed around the human body or everyday experiences. It started arbitrary. Then was defined as in terms of the wavelength of radiation from krypton-86. (the meter was 1,650,763.73 wavelengths of that particular transition to match the original arbitrary metal bar) Then they based it on the distance light travels in an arbitrary amount of time (1/29…

I didn't say it was SI units, but it's easily convertible to them. Metric isn't magic, but it's a cohesive set of legos that can be transformed easily without requiring messy arithmetic and hard to memorise scale constants. Are you not pretending people use the modern, most-precise definitions in the day-to-day just to give yourself a stab at claiming that Metric is awful? Non-metric would face the same dilemma when…

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Post by stinkbeetle »

LeBit wrote: post #58
cute_boi wrote: post #23

Ram Shortage, SSD shortage, CPU shortage, GPU shortage, diesel shortage, now motor oil shortage....... Are we going to have shortage of everything now ......

I realize the shortages you enumerated have different reasons , but a highly respectable French engineer, Jean-Marc Jancovici , has been repeating for years that we are heading into an inevitable age of "degrowth". It is not an "if". It is now inevitable. He is very pro alternative sources of energy but he clearly explains nothing can replace petroleum right now. Petroleum is used to build everything. Gas for your ca…

> nothing can replace petroleum right now.

You don't need to be some kind of super genius to understand this, if you have not been sucked in to the populist left wing propaganda about petroleum. We can't even replace petroleum for energy right now, let alone all its other uses.

It's not just oil we'll have issues with either, lots of minerals could easily see shortages and rapidly increasing costs to extract over this century.

> We are doomed.

More propaganda. We don't need infinite economic growth, infinite population growth, or even continued quality of life growth. Nothing bad even happens when you have degrowth, all other life forms have periods of growth and degrowth. It's all crazy propaganda that people repeat we need to constantly keep boosting up population numbers.

A few generations ago nobody on earth ever saw a motor car for the entire history of humanity. Or electricity. Antibiotics. Synthetic fertilizers. Any kind of plastic.

Things will change, people will adapt, conflict and famine, etc. Much the same as the rest of human history. The people of the future might no lot be able to expect to be clothed, fed, housed, and entertained in exchange for sitting around an air-conditioned office eating a birthday cake before putting in their solid 2.5 hours of work for the day drawing up the next draft of policies around who can use which bathroom before scrolling tiktok for the rest of the work day. But I wouldn't call that "doomed".

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Post by 9x39 »

LeBit wrote: post #120
9x39 wrote: post #73

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What % of people who have wealth really need that wealth?

Not sure I follow.

Apart from feigned ignorance, a common trope is arguing X vehicle isn’t used optimally in a way they agree with and thus isn’t necessary to own.

I was pointing out the logical destination of this.

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