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Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by y1n0 »

jasonlotito wrote: post #108
k33n wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. Florida simply led the way and calmly banned Flock cameras from the entire state. Every other state that cares about individual liberty should follow suit.

I mean, let's not get carried away. Florida still has very oppressive anti-second-amendment legislation and laws on the books, and until they get rid of that, I wouldn't call them anywhere close to having individual liberty.

When I lived in FLA and it was super easy to get a concealed weapon permit. I carried a gun not infrequently just to exercise that right. I was serious about training with it as well.

The other states I’ve lived in haven’t been so straight forward.

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by throwaway9980 »

pwython wrote: post #85
HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is also a large difference between local surveillance (home/business/area CCTV), public surveillance (openly accessible cameras like traffic cams), and dragnet surveillance- I generally trust my local police precincts but don't like the fact that the alphabet soup of federal agencies has warrantless access to track me on the way to and from church or work or Facebook marketplace deals

Honest question: If the feds were actually tracking you on your way to church, how does that impact you? Is that a real fear you have?

Yes, I often wonder if Martin Luther King felt at all concerned by the Feds tracking him on his way to church.

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by WarmWash »

card_zero wrote: post #115
HNhelpsFlock wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

But what are you saying? YC are to blame for the unsavory future directions of the companies they fund. Counterargument, no they're not, what are you banging on about.

Classic ideologue behavior of no-nuance blind rage to stoke as much support as possible for their cause.

"My cause is more important than honesty, and honesty could detract from the rage energy I need"

You see this is everywhere, and it (lack of rational discussion/reasoning) is soooo incredibly destructive to society.

We can stop Flock without having to make up lies. They do enough bad stuff that their is no need for deceit and conspiracy...

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by righthand »

k33n wrote: post #58
spiderfarmer wrote: post #11

US citizens are bad at protesting. In my area these cameras would be on fire weekly.

In Florida, we just talked to our reps and got them banned from the entire state. It was easy and didn’t require protests at all.

Florida is also ironically how we may get cookie banners in line and to actually opt users out as they prosecute websites there as illegal wire taps if you still put cookies on the page after or before the opt out happens.

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by giaour »

tptacek wrote: post #21

Random people calling 911 on other people filming them is a staple of Youtube; banks, coffee store workers, hairdressers, most especially restaurant managers. I don't know why anyone would expect technicians from Flock to be different. It's worse for the technician in this case, because he really was being followed --- that's not unlawful but it's unnerving. You'd think from the response that this was like the VP/Sal…

> It's worse for the technician in this case, because he really was being followed --- that's not unlawful but it's unnerving.

The technician was in public, bearing a company logo, performing an activity in which there is widespread public interest, and identified himself to law enforcement as an agent of Flock Safety. He is entitled to be unnerved but has no reasonable expectation of privacy here.

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by emdash »

driggs wrote: post #90

I love a good taste-of-their-own-medicine story like anyone else, but the headline is false. It seems that this is about a YouTuber stalking a Flock employee's vehicle through traffic for 10-15 minutes, which is why the police were called.

Flock cameras do the same thing to me so I guess I'd better call the cops.

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by kstrauser »

whimsicalism wrote: post #153
kstrauser wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s literally exactly what Flock does. I can’t find sympathy for the company on this.

Maybe I’m a radical but I am okay with the government having capabilities that are different from what a youtuber is allowed to do.

In my opinion, yes, that makes you a radical. I don’t want an armed organization with a trillion dollar budget stalking me. That’s the common stance in America. We even put it in our constitution.

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by [deleted] »

theoreticalmal wrote: post #137
driggs wrote: post #90

I love a good taste-of-their-own-medicine story like anyone else, but the headline is false. It seems that this is about a YouTuber stalking a Flock employee's vehicle through traffic for 10-15 minutes, which is why the police were called.

Not illegal, and like all the other comments here, isn’t this exactly what Flock does? But they do it indiscriminately to all vehicles at all times?

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