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Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

#132
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I asked Claude to scan my network and check if LG tv is sending data, it said yes. Some domains were blocked by my router some were not, now Claude blocked all lg related tracking/ad domains on my router. Domains which are blocked now. prov-lg.alphonso.tv au.info.lgsmartad.com kic.cdpbeacon.lgtvcommon.com au.nextlgsdp.com kic.tv.wiselg.com kic.wiseconfig.lgtvcommon.com kic.homeprv.lgtvcommon.com kic.recommend.lgtvcom…

I have AdGuard running in my home lab and pointed the router to the AdGuard DNS resolver. I have some general block lists and a special Smart TV block list.

I asked DeepSeek to do the same scan, but given everything goes through AdGuard it’s much simpler to sift through it’s logs. This is what I got:

  * br.rdx2.lgtvsdp.com, br.lgtvsdp.com — 1,200 hits: LG’s ad/content-delivery platform (SDP)
  * br.info.lgsmartad.com — 64 hits: LG Smart AD advertising network
  * aic.cdpsvc.lgtvcommon.com — 141 hits: LG customer-data platform (CDP)
  * aic.cdpbeacon.lgtvcommon.com — 34 hits: CDP data-collection beacon
  * aic*.lgtviot.com, *.lgthinq.com — ~410 hits: LG ThinQ / IoT cloud
  * lgtvonline.lge.com — 350 hits: LG online services / telemetry
  * br.lgeapi.com, ngfts.lge.com, aic-gfts.lge.com, snu.lge.com — ~210 hits: LG APIs + telemetry

Of those, these were already blocked:

  * rdx2.lgtvsdp.com (600/600) — LG ad platform
  * cdpsvc.lgtvcommon.com (~370) — LG customer-data platform & beacons
  * info.lgsmartad.com (78/78) — LG Smart AD
  * ibs.lgappstv.com (86/86) — LG app store
  * aic-ngfts.lge.com (36/36)

General list also catches: Netflix logs (6k), Amazon telemetry.insights.video.a2z.com (700), Datadog (600), Conviva (410), Google DoubleClick (98)

Though some domains still are going through, which are now blocked :)

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

#133
post #127

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So in trying to get one big corp from spying on you, you gave another the keys to the castle? I really don't understand how people give models run on somebody else's server these wide-reaching permissions. Do you really trust Anthropic that much? The government that's hosting Anthropic?

"Giving the keys" doesn't necessarily mean outright cat the private key to Claude. You setup the key, configure SSH config to use it and you can just SSH to the machine without ever seeing the keys. Stop fear mongering unnecessarily.

I wasn't talking about the literal key files, I was talking about the metaphorical keys to the kingdom.

No matter how you set it up, you're giving a cloud service the ability to SSH into your private network.

Surely you must see the glaring security risk this creates?

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

#134
post #130

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The fact you don't do it means you actually don't care at all about your privacy. It takes 5 minutes to bring every member in an household in the living room or kitchen and assist them to change the wifi password on their device. You can even prepare for it by printing the details + qrcode beforehand. Connecting to a wifi network is one of those things every terminally connected non tech savy people are able to do th…

I think the GP more meant the practice that some ISPs have of shipping default routers that may or may not be able to be replaced with a separate SSID that is publicly available for use by other customers of that ISP. Not "my network has a default or empty password, I can't make people sign in again."

Is that really a thing? My ISP gives me a router that takes an SSID/password by default (that it gets back to if I reset to defaults) but I can change it any time as well as other parameters (like channels, wether WPS is activated, etc).

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

#136
post #15

I deeply regret buying my LG. Originally the plan was to never connect it to wifi, and use an external device (chromecast, apple tv, or whatever) but my wife was too excited to try out whatever features. Unfortunately we can't sell the TV for anywhere what we paid for it new (to replace it with a different brand) so we're stuck with it for another ~7-10 years, or whatever the standard TV replacement interval is these…

You can root it and put it behind a PiHole or the like, that should allow you to get rid of the worst offenders. https://www.webosbrew.org/rooting/

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

#137
post #74

Boy, how I would like LG to be sued out of existence.

Not possible. They are part of the chaebol [1], meaning they are essentially part of the South Korean government. They can't really fail as long as the country exists. There's an old joke that South Korea isn't really a country, but five families/companies pretending to be one and there's some truth to this.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaebol

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

#138

Honestly an incredible and educational video. The sheer effort of what went into this is astounding. All my TVs are LG and I bought a fancy one for my mother and sisters. Now I'm having nightmares and trying to figure out what the hell to do.

Taking them off the wifi and changing your wifi password seems to be all you need to do. While they are technically capable to look for open wifi, this is not something they do out of the box, as far as my understanding goes.

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

#139
post #43

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What’s stopping you from disconnecting it from wifi mow?

This is also my question, but I suppose the answer could be that we don't trust LG to actually forget the wifi password (and not use it surreptitiously later). You could also change the wifi info, but that might mean changing a whole lot of devices (including wife's and kids).

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Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

#140

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If you don't have laws, or don't enforce them, people will do whatever they want. I can remember when this simple point was obvious to almost everyone.

We didn’t have laws but every TV at the dawn of the era came with full schematics and documentation. That said, I’m not arguing that we don’t need laws today - we do, or at least I have no other idea how to do a course correction from where we are. Preferably wide-range ones that alter the whole consumer-producer relationships. But the key thing is not the laws, it’s the attitude (individual and corporate) towards ot…

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