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StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by gamblor956 »

PorciiVorbesc wrote: post #15
ZiiS wrote: post #4

Even a half hearted RTS would be better recived, how can they not know that?

Couldn't be more wrong. The market for new RTSs is too tiny and saturated to turn a profit on any new IP. The small existing player base is too entrenched to move away from the old established IPs that are still popular to something new and unproven.

Tempest Rising made more in profits than Marathon, despite selling a fraction as many copies.

Given that Marathon is unlikely to ever make a profit, Tempest Rising technically made infinitely more in profits than Marathon did.

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by ares623 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #31
fc417fc802 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is easily the most depressing thought I've encountered in a while. It's entirely accurate and combined with talk of AI regulation it paints a picture of a very bleak future indeed. Locked down hardware given away almost for free, permits and AI based monitoring required for anything with the computational power of a GPU from 10 years ago, and market prices that place 64 GB of RAM in the same ballpark as a brand…

Please drink Verfication Can™ to continue playing PEPSI™ Presents: Bubsy 3D™ Legends™

It seems the industry has collectively and nearly unanimously decided that the Verification Can future is way less cringe and way more preferable than the future where we are writing YAML by hand*

* YAML, etc.

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by promano »

PorciiVorbesc wrote: post #15
ZiiS wrote: post #4

Even a half hearted RTS would be better recived, how can they not know that?

Couldn't be more wrong. The market for new RTSs is too tiny and saturated to turn a profit on any new IP. The small existing player base is too entrenched to move away from the old established IPs that are still popular to something new and unproven.

Starcraft III would be as far from a new IP as you could go while still making an RTS. Except for a Warcraft IV, I guess.

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by drfuzzy89 »

59percentmore wrote: post #2

Well, I suppose it's something that a Verge article held back from spoiling the trailer until just before where they embedded it in the article. Usually they put it right in the headline. I wish people would stop supporting this trash site and let it die.

They also claim the trailer follows the United Earth Directorate from Brood War when they clearly mention the Terran Dominion in the trailer. It's a minor thing, but do these sites not have editors?

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by pitched »

Insanity wrote: post #40
pokstad wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile, Nintendo with a tiny fraction of MS market cap is absolutely killing it with their legacy IP.

For all the flaws in how Nintendo treats fans of their IP, the games they put out themselves are consistently fun. Mario Kart still feels like Mario Kart even decades later, and not in stagnating/bad way.

The original creators of Mario Kart are still involved in the latest entries (a 34-year run!) Thats not common outside Nintendo.

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by oefrha »

jm4 wrote: post #36
Setheck wrote: post #32

They just abandon the entire RTS fan base. This feels just like the diablo immortal announcement disaster where they announce a product that is completely outside the target audience. I hope it's good, but it's really disappointing to not just have starcraft 3. Instead we get diablo 5? I wish I could feel positive about any of the blizzcon announcements, but it all feels like an out of touch joke.

RTS is pretty much a dead genre these days. There have been indie releases but nothing did well enough for a big studio to take notice. They tested the water with a Command and Conquer remaster a few years ago too.

That’s fine, just let it die. But they gotta milk the goddamn IP dry.

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Post by [deleted] »

mcmcmc wrote: post #25
59percentmore wrote: post #2

Well, I suppose it's something that a Verge article held back from spoiling the trailer until just before where they embedded it in the article. Usually they put it right in the headline. I wish people would stop supporting this trash site and let it die.

It’s a trailer, you really think that’s something that can be spoiled? Do you get mad if someone spoils a Super Bowl ad?

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Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by 3eb7988a1663 »

59percentmore wrote: post #2

Well, I suppose it's something that a Verge article held back from spoiling the trailer until just before where they embedded it in the article. Usually they put it right in the headline. I wish people would stop supporting this trash site and let it die.

!SPOILERS!

The trailer shows nothing. Mentions a couple of factions that have previously been established from the lore and shows some Space Marine montage footage that could have been a cutscene from the prior games. It is not gameplay and just as easily could be promotion material for a Starcraft 3 RTS.

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by greazy »

tempestn wrote: post #28
mikenew wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no one left at Blizzard with any RTS experience. They've long since left for smaller studios. SC2 is my favorite game of all time and I would love nothing more than an SC3. But if there ever is to be a real spiritual successor it won't be from Blizzard.

Problem is I don't want a spiritual successor. I want an actual successor that would build on the Starcraft universe, but in an RTS.

If you're a fan of single player checkout the mod scene. It's very good. UED First Light is excellent.
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