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StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by PorciiVorbesc »

detritus wrote: post #19
PorciiVorbesc wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't be more wrong. The market for new RTSs is too tiny and saturated to turn a profit on any new IP. The small existing player base is too entrenched to move away from the old established IPs that are still popular to something new and unproven.

Go on?

Gon on, as in you mean like to explain the obvious? Just google/chatgpt sales of RTS games vs shooters and other shit.

Good luck convincing an exec to give you 200 million $ to make a new RTS for the 50 player based market out there who's playing the oldies anyway: AOE, RA, SC, etc.

It's a small and saturated market that's long been fished out and no point investing into, other than HD remakes/remasters of previously mentioned established IP.

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by plorkyeran »

59percentmore wrote: post #2

Well, I suppose it's something that a Verge article held back from spoiling the trailer until just before where they embedded it in the article. Usually they put it right in the headline. I wish people would stop supporting this trash site and let it die.

I have no idea what you could consider a spoiler for a three minute trailer that's nothing but vibes.

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by Waterluvian »

ares623 wrote: post #13

you can milk anything with nipples. Companies still announcing big AAA games as if their customers will have the hardware necessary to run such games in 2030. And people say I'm the one huffing copium.

Consoles sold at a loss before. They can do that again if it enables selling software, which often has pretty fantastic margins.

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by mcmcmc »

59percentmore wrote: post #2

Well, I suppose it's something that a Verge article held back from spoiling the trailer until just before where they embedded it in the article. Usually they put it right in the headline. I wish people would stop supporting this trash site and let it die.

It’s a trailer, you really think that’s something that can be spoiled? Do you get mad if someone spoils a Super Bowl ad?

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by mcmcmc »

PorciiVorbesc wrote: post #21
detritus wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go on?

Gon on, as in you mean like to explain the obvious? Just google/chatgpt sales of RTS games vs shooters and other shit. Good luck convincing an exec to give you 200 million $ to make a new RTS for the 50 player based market out there who's playing the oldies anyway: AOE, RA, SC, etc. It's a small and saturated market that's long been fished out and no point investing into, other than HD remakes/remasters of previously…

MOBAs largely absorbed the younger player base that would have been into traditional RTS games. The whole genre came out of a Warcraft mod.

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by Ralfp »

detritus wrote: post #19
PorciiVorbesc wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't be more wrong. The market for new RTSs is too tiny and saturated to turn a profit on any new IP. The small existing player base is too entrenched to move away from the old established IPs that are still popular to something new and unproven.

Go on?

Tempest Rising was taunted as the old school C&C RTS comeback and it ended as niche game with small player base and 9.5k player peak on Steam.

Probably best RTS game going on currently is Beyond All Reason, and that's because guys are doing it as an open source clone/followup to Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander Alliances and not actual business (but they started to look for a way to monetize it to fund future development).

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by tempestn »

mikenew wrote: post #18
ZiiS wrote: post #4

Even a half hearted RTS would be better recived, how can they not know that?

There is no one left at Blizzard with any RTS experience. They've long since left for smaller studios. SC2 is my favorite game of all time and I would love nothing more than an SC3. But if there ever is to be a real spiritual successor it won't be from Blizzard.

Problem is I don't want a spiritual successor. I want an actual successor that would build on the Starcraft universe, but in an RTS.

Re: StarCraft returns in 2030 as an open-world shooter

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Post by fc417fc802 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #24
ares623 wrote: post #13

you can milk anything with nipples. Companies still announcing big AAA games as if their customers will have the hardware necessary to run such games in 2030. And people say I'm the one huffing copium.

Consoles sold at a loss before. They can do that again if it enables selling software, which often has pretty fantastic margins.

This is easily the most depressing thought I've encountered in a while. It's entirely accurate and combined with talk of AI regulation it paints a picture of a very bleak future indeed. Locked down hardware given away almost for free, permits and AI based monitoring required for anything with the computational power of a GPU from 10 years ago, and market prices that place 64 GB of RAM in the same ballpark as a brand new vehicle from the dealer.
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