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We must pace the frontier

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Re: We must pace the frontier

#21
As usual, ClosedAI and Misanthropic go in lockstep, call for regulatory capture and justify diminished progress.

Amodei tops it off by using diseases to capture the reader's favor. It no longer works, people are just disgusted by it after four years of daily marketing.

Re: We must pace the frontier

#23
It's either being afraid of loosing to china or that model development will stagnate and they want to make it look like they are "slowing" down deliberately.

However the real reason to slow down is more of how it's introduced to the economy. Hypereautomation will kill jobs and destroy the economy. I work as an AI engineer and companies are delivering products at vibe coding speeds to kill jobs and at the same time automating internally. All companies are doing this at the same time and the target it sto eliminate workers.

Most people are so extremely slow to pick this up. How hard can it be to understand what hyperautomation does to the workforce? Companies are desperate to surrivive and they will do all it takes to lower their costs and at the same time not loose to competitors. Its Wild West out there.

Re: We must pace the frontier

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post #13

None of this works without buy-in from China. This isn't something private companies can decide. The US would need to sign a groundbreaking deal with China, equivalent to the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty of the Cold War.

We'd have to make a deal with China and be confident they wouldn't cheat on it.

Would this be similar to the deal of "we'll offshore all our manufacturing to you and you'll become a free, open, liberal democracy with open borders and multiculturalism?" Because I remember how that deal turned out.

Re: We must pace the frontier

#26

I'm tired of tech billionaires lobbying the US government to make an AI patriot act that gives them unprecedented control over speech, trade, and technology. The narrative is grotesquely transparent: 1) AI is a dangerous technology that can literally end the world. 2) Only me and a handful of other [people like me] should be trusted to determine who can use it and how. 3) The state must use its coercive power to supp…

Where in the essay does it propose "The state must use its coercive power to support my control of this technology to the exclusion of [people not like me]"

I don't think that people outside of tech think the problem with "tech billionaires" is that they occasionally support some limited regulation. There's a weird form of tech populism that takes as axiomatic that any government intervention is "regulatory capture" and insists the only way to combat the power of big tech is unfettered capitalism that seems bizarrely prevalent on HN given how little sense it makes in a normal political context. Like, Bernie Sanders' position here is simple to understand: ban it. But on HN you'll see people framing the side with Marc Andreesen and Peter Thiel on it as against "tech billionaires".

Re: We must pace the frontier

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post #19
post #9

We must ensure the gravy train keeps rolling until we IPO. > Crack down on unauthorized distillation / prevent weight theft Actually hilarious to put that in writing, given the genesis of this entire business model.

Pulling up the klepto-ladder.

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Re: We must pace the frontier

#29
post #13

None of this works without buy-in from China. This isn't something private companies can decide. The US would need to sign a groundbreaking deal with China, equivalent to the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty of the Cold War.

We'd have to make a deal with China and be confident they wouldn't cheat on it.

And they would have to be confident that you wouldn't cheat on it.

Re: We must pace the frontier

#30
post #8

I enjoy Claude Code very much, have max privately and team premium at work, but the doomer marketing and this whole regulate-while-we're-ahead spiel is extremely annoying and makes me wish Anthropic gets trounced.

Ideally there is some sort of regulation, but one that cripples the leading companies like OpenAI and Anthropic... rather than helping them.
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