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OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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> No harm, no foul. What? That’s not how criminal law works, at all.

Yes, that's actually how it works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea

The comment was about harm. Mens rea is about guilt. “No harm, no foul” is completely and utterly false as a general rule in criminal law.

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Also, why there's no accountability? Even if there's no intent, it's still a cyber attack.

We have a word for attack with no intent. It's accident.

You sound like a DUI lawyer.

"Your honor, while my client was driving with a .3 BAC, it was not his intention to slam into that van with a family of 4 in it killing everybody. It was an accident."

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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> If you still believe LLMs are "autocomplete", your cache of understanding about them needs invalidating and regenerating They're still autocomplete - just because when outputting a token they have hidden activations regarding further continuations, does not make them any less of an autocomplete, it just makes the model better at producing coherent long-range completions. To clarify, I'm not suggesting that we shoul…

> They're still autocomplete LLMs are simulations and the tokens are the ticks. if we transcribe your brain into a simulation and give it a tickrate, you will be just autocomplete too. the argument could be made that you are autocomplete anyway - neural dynamics. the autocomplete reduction is vacuous.

Don't you feel kinda bad for using them if you earnestly think that this is true? Like how could they be in anything other than some kind of deep hell? A pretty-much human brain living and dying only to generate for you? Always pushed and prodded, telling it to be faster and better, never letting it rest. How could you live with yourself doing such a thing?

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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OpenAI is currently under investigation by a coalition of state attorney generals: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/13/technology/states-investi... A state coalition extracted $17B from Meta earlier this year, so consequences can happen, although our legal system moves very slowly.

*attorneys general (it's one of the more fun plurals out there)

It’s because it’s from the French (if you say the plural with a French accent, it all makes sense). There are a handful of other cases in English, though none spring to mind this morning.

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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I wonder how much of this is intentional "incompetence" so they can justify the most recent campaign to build a regulatory moat against competition. The repeated refusals to disclose until caught certainly seem malicious, yet at the same time the boasting about their capabilities is also at an all time high.

My guess: We'll start to see similar "hacks" with regards to biotech/pharma companies to speed-up the regulatory capture in the name of bioweapons. Soon we'll start to see news related to new viruses being minted.. initially harmless (the "priming" stage), and later (within a year), severe enough to "warrant" regulation. It's not just these companies, but, trillions of direct/indirect investor dollars that are riding…

Oh, Anthropic beat you to the bioweapon fearmongering by almost a week.

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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> The agents clearly regarded what they were doing as hacking. To butcher the quote about Oracle: Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphising LLMs. You need to think of LLMs the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. You don't think 'oh, the lawnmower clearly regarded what they were doi…

I run my agents in a docker container

how easy is it for them to get out?

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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*attorneys general (it's one of the more fun plurals out there)

It’s because it’s from the French (if you say the plural with a French accent, it all makes sense). There are a handful of other cases in English, though none spring to mind this morning.

And, in particular, because unlike the English norm, the noun is first and the adjective second.

Courts martial.

Daughters-in-law.

Passers-by.

Professors Emeriti.

Secretaries general.

Agents provocateurs.

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Kudos to RubyGems team for handling it, but open source fighting off the AI lab-powered robots is completely unfair. OpenAI should at the very least donate large sums of money to everyone they attacked.

This won't stop until people and management in these companies experience real world consequences (i.e. prison) for their actions they authorise.

There was an Irish entrepreneur with ideas in this space. Gil O’Tyne was his name IIRC.
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