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OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Post by andai »

walrus01 wrote: post #97
andai wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the plausible deniability aspect of "the computer gone goofy again" is pretty funny. September 2029: Whoops, our sentient nukes did a funny again!

I guess they should have kept those 8" floppy disks that implemented a completely air gapped crypto key system for the missile silos. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=nuclear+m...

>The Defense Department’s 1970s-era IBM Series/1 Computer and long-outdated floppy disks handle functions related to intercontinental ballistic missiles, nuclear bombers and tanker support aircraft, according to the new Government Accountability Office report.

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/25/us-military-uses-8-inch-flop...

From 1976! They're using 50 year old computers? That's amazing.

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Post by lukeify »

nonconstant wrote: post #6

Kudos to RubyGems team for handling it, but open source fighting off the AI lab-powered robots is completely unfair. OpenAI should at the very least donate large sums of money to everyone they attacked.

This won't stop until people and management in these companies experience real world consequences (i.e. prison) for their actions they authorise.

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Post by walrus01 »

andai wrote: post #121
walrus01 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess they should have kept those 8" floppy disks that implemented a completely air gapped crypto key system for the missile silos. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=nuclear+m...

>The Defense Department’s 1970s-era IBM Series/1 Computer and long-outdated floppy disks handle functions related to intercontinental ballistic missiles, nuclear bombers and tanker support aircraft, according to the new Government Accountability Office report. https://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/25/us-military-uses-8-inch-flop... From 1976! They're using 50 year old computers? That's amazing.

The Boeing 747-400, at least, uses a 1987 state of the art 3.5" 1.44MB floppy drive.

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Post by Alien1Being »

Easy solution .... The corporation will pay Trump a billion dollars for his next bout of vandalism of America's institutions .

And his slave Supreme Court lackeys will immediately give OpenAI perpetual immunity to any litigation arising from this or any other matters .

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Post by angoragoats »

qarl wrote: post #43
ssfdg wrote: post #25

Correction: OpenAI carried out an attack on RubyGems. I am gobsmacked at the tech industry's seemly bottomless appetite for giving these clowns the benefit of the doubt.

I think it's more likely they want to call attention to the fact it was the result of agents, rather than shift blame. I'm pretty sure everyone knows that OpenAI is liable for the software they create and run.

One of the main purposes of LLMs is to launder responsibility/culpability for (possibly nefarious) actions in the eyes of the public. The average person has no idea how LLMs actually work and think it’s plausible that an “agent” could go rogue without any human instruction. Terms like agent, thinking, reasoning, etc reinforce the misconception that the LLM has a mind of its own.

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Post by ceejayoz »

emodendroket wrote: post #104
devmor wrote: post #91

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We have multiple public figures, politicians and business owners, openly committing felonies and bragging about it daily. I don't know why you think this is a deterrent. The sitting president just offered an open bribe on live television for votes for his party this week.

While his proposed policy is likely extremely unwise there's nothing illegal about it.

Bullshit. $5,000 for everyone if they vote to keep the GOP in power is clearly illegal.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/597

> Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate; and

> Whoever solicits, accepts, or receives any such expenditure in consideration of his vote or the withholding of his vote—

> Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Post by oceansky »

jsnell wrote: post #5

I can't believe we're finding out about this from 3p researchers again (but nice job on the investigation!). OpenAI had two great opportunities to disclose this. The HF incident report, and in response to the German Wiki issue. It seems impossible to believe they didn't know. This must be the same training run the HF incident was about, and this should have lit up like a Christmas tree in the investigation. How many…

Also, why there's no accountability?

Even if there's no intent, it's still a cyber attack.

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Post by fwip »

showlife wrote: post #40
kibwen wrote: post #12

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"ChatGPT, use the stylometry that you've developed via hoovering up the history of every internet post ever written to divine the true identity of Satoshi and dispatch men with $5 wrenches to his home address."

i hate that $5 wrench meme. Randall Monroe of xkcd is ordinarily such a smart guy but he really didn't do his research with his $5 wrench attack idea. Torturers don't hit people in the head with something hard. Not the ones who are any good at their job anyway. Easy way to concuss someone or have them die of shock before they tell you what you need to know.

The XKCD comic just said hit them, not necessarily in the head. Personally, I know I wouldn't last ten seconds with a pair of broken kneecaps.

Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems

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Post by omoikane »

showlife wrote: post #40
kibwen wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"ChatGPT, use the stylometry that you've developed via hoovering up the history of every internet post ever written to divine the true identity of Satoshi and dispatch men with $5 wrenches to his home address."

i hate that $5 wrench meme. Randall Monroe of xkcd is ordinarily such a smart guy but he really didn't do his research with his $5 wrench attack idea. Torturers don't hit people in the head with something hard. Not the ones who are any good at their job anyway. Easy way to concuss someone or have them die of shock before they tell you what you need to know.

> Torturers don't hit people in the head

The comic doesn't say hit the person in the head, it says "hit him with this $5 wrench", and did not specify what to hit.

https://xkcd.com/538/

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