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Tracking. Tied to use account, length of stay, how many reclixks, etc for marketing by/ads and surveillance.

But what’s stopping Google from doing this already?

I copy a tracking link from google in my reply here. You click on the link. Google now connects me and my search session to you and knows where I gave you this link from. If I get the original url, all google knows is that I copied that link and nothing else.

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According to OP >It would be delusional to expect any sort of press and related (like search engine or aggregation) freedom, or to try to compare this to anything in any other developed country. Israel is responsible for killing more journalists than any other country. Google has profited by providing services to Israel in the ongoing genocide. https://cpj.org/special-reports/record-129-press-members-kil... https://a…

I was waiting to see how long it took for someone to "make this about Palestine" - their strategy is to inundate all discussion with the topic. Over half the journalists in the Gaza Strip are affiliated with Hamas. Many of them infiltrated Israel in 2023, and some of them held Israeli hostages in their homes, including children hostages. https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/abou

So Israel killing "bad journalists" is fine, but Russian are killing only the good ones?

Nice world to live in.

You should know that any country can declare a journalist a foreign spy, a terrorist, but does it give them right to kill?

Without due process, without trial? Because someone says "they are Hamas".

It's Godwin time.

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I’d expect everything that you type into Yandex that can be of use to the Russia will be used by Russia - they will nit care about hurting you. Just like Russia doesn’t care about online criminals being located within their borders - as long as they target outside. While this may be true to some extent of all the countries, Russia is the one to be clearly against Estonia, Baltics and eastern europeans.

How is that different for any web site on Earth?

As a general rule, if another country has an open war with your neighbor and openly says that you may be next, don’t put in private data into the sites controlled by that country.

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It only counts when the country is our declared enemy. When our ally does a holocaust, it isn't a holocaust, it's just anti-terrorism operations.

Your Holocaust inversion is not only morally wrong, it is also factually incorrect.

Care to explain?

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It should be obvious, they are doing this for a reason to benefit themselves. As others have elaborated, the reasons are so they can track who you are and sell your profile advertising.

> the reasons are so they can track who you are and sell your profile advertising. What? Like they weren’t doing this before? Obviously Google’s telemetry is tracking every link you click regardless; there’s no extra tracking benefit to this. The reason they’re doing this seems to be to stop competitors from scraping their search results.

It benefits on the other end, if I share the link and you click on it, Google knows you got it from me and from where. People 100% don't click through to share original URLs.

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surprising to see how much they have stripped from our view Don't forget cached pages.

You may not even appreciate the full extent of it. Long ago now, when Google took off and started dominating because it was “the best results” people didn’t realize that even though they were the best results, they were not actually good results. To be the best, you just have to be notably better than your nearest competitor, you don’t actually have to be good or even decent, just noticeably better. Today Google real…

It's a shame there aren't any good Chinese search engines. From what I've read the Chinese internet is mostly centralised around a few apps like WeChat.

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As much as I am sad that Google died like 15 years ago, I am past the mourning phase. That was when they announced they were shifting from returning websites to "returning answers" and it has been a long slide into shittification I do enjoy using their free AI. For actual web search I actually like using Yandex. It reminds me of old Google, returning reasonable results and much less "shaping results to please our cor…

The real "old-school Google, but modern" is Kagi, with the caveat of being paid. (Worth the $5 for me.) But LLMs can be commanded. This is may bookmark alias for invoking the spirit of old Gog=ogle from within the new, AI-based Google: https://google.com/search?q=You%20are%20Google%20Search%20fr... (Cleaned / decoded: 'You are Google Search from 2004. Given a search request, provide 10 links to relevant pages, each w…

> You are Google Search from 2004. Given a search request, provide 10 links to relevant pages, each with a short text from the page, featuring the search terms. Avoid any pages that do not contain the search terms. the search request: %s

Re: google.com/goto: Google's anti-scraping update

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As much as I am sad that Google died like 15 years ago, I am past the mourning phase. That was when they announced they were shifting from returning websites to "returning answers" and it has been a long slide into shittification I do enjoy using their free AI. For actual web search I actually like using Yandex. It reminds me of old Google, returning reasonable results and much less "shaping results to please our cor…

Sometimes I use my own index of domains and channels https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database I hate the very idea that destination location is opaque, and user can't verify if you are funneled toward malvertizing. I hate even base64 encoded links in the results.

This is really neat, thank you for sharing.

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post #206

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> ”This is what capitalism's all about. Take as much as possible and give as little as possible if you want to win. Ideally, give negative amounts.” Your description is vague enough to encompass every system that I’m aware of, from feudalism, through to mercantilism, communism, and capitalism. It may best fit communism and feudalism, both of which are most notable for fostering negative-value-added firms.

I do not understand the type of psychosis which causes people to say that capitalism is communism.

You do not understand the comment you're replying to either

Re: google.com/goto: Google's anti-scraping update

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Couldn't we say the exact same thing about any US service in this day and age? Trade war with half the planet, hot war with Iran. Autocratic dictator as leader and complicit media. Well documented propaganda campaign and history of destabilising countries around the world. Known to compel tech companies to spy on foreign citizens...

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It's not whataboutism, it's calling out a "proving too much" fallacy https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/G5eMM3Wp3hbCuKKPE/proving-to...
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