Was almost going to praise this article for not overtly sounding like Claude, but then I read this:
> and the incentive structures we have built are the experimental apparatus.
So close!
The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative
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Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative
#122I'm pretty baffled by people I hear here and there saying that AI is great because it saves them the hassle of human interaction. "I love Waymo, I don't have to chit-chat with the driver and bear his horrible music". Apparently people didn't get the memo : humans are social animals. Autonomous individuals simply don't exist. Nothing is entirely yours... And AI precisely builds upon that large availability of our comm…
> I love Waymo, I don't have to chit-chat with the driver and bear his horrible music This is a reason I love Waymo. I don’t like talking with people and like avoiding it when possible. There’s also may other, more important to me, reasons I like Waymo: they never cancel on me, their car doesn’t stink, no tipping (cheaper), not worrying about them rating me poorly.
Also, the passenger does not have to worry about the driver doing anything to them (and vice versa).
Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative
#123This article is written by an LLM, by the way. ("Quietly" is... as Claude might put it... "often the quiet tell".)
Is it OK to flag articles for being AI-written? I really want to.
Yes, HN is for human discussion. It is fine to flag and remove things that are not human written and cannot facilitate human discussion due to it’s false construction.
Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative
#124I work at an intersection of tech, applied research, and science. Something I’ve noticed in collaboration that does occur is an increased confidence in people outside their domains to say things with conviction. I have people who have limited experience with software pushing out layers and layers of abstracted code that’s fairly sophisticated but often misguided in intent who will say what they’re doing is correct, w…
"I also hear a lot more questioning people in their domains and challenging opinions, then hearing what I can only imagine are fragmented pieces of conversations they had with an LLM thinking through some argument. Then there’s silence when you discuss shortcomings, then they come back later with their memorized fragments of what you said, combined with memorized fragments of the LLM response to the argument." We hir…
My condolences :(
Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Physics, and to a large degree pure mathematics, has attracted a critical mass of the personality type that needs to feel like the smartest person in the room in any given situation. It has given them a slightly notorious reputation in academia.
From a one-time physics grad student, I do think there advantages to being ... like this. The flip side of being confidently wrong sometimes is that we treat understanding new systems as something approachable. So, yeah, it's annoying that we don't stay in our lane, but, from my boss's perspective, I'm the only one who's actually willing to just read code, investigate, possibly read a paper, and figure out what's goi…
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Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Physics, and to a large degree pure mathematics, has attracted a critical mass of the personality type that needs to feel like the smartest person in the room in any given situation. It has given them a slightly notorious reputation in academia.
From a one-time physics grad student, I do think there advantages to being ... like this. The flip side of being confidently wrong sometimes is that we treat understanding new systems as something approachable. So, yeah, it's annoying that we don't stay in our lane, but, from my boss's perspective, I'm the only one who's actually willing to just read code, investigate, possibly read a paper, and figure out what's goi…
It’s not about being in your lane. It’s about approaching things with an open mind plus the desire to solve the problem instead or proving yourself right.
Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative
#127I work at an intersection of tech, applied research, and science. Something I’ve noticed in collaboration that does occur is an increased confidence in people outside their domains to say things with conviction. I have people who have limited experience with software pushing out layers and layers of abstracted code that’s fairly sophisticated but often misguided in intent who will say what they’re doing is correct, w…
At some point, LLMs will be a far better source of truth, and then this distaste of people “outside their domains” is really just going to be a sort of snobbery from people who have had experience in a domain for a long time, (but they still have the same level of knowledge and insight as a person who just used an LLM to research). These people are basically nascent “human supremacists”, who believe that only raw hum…
Not trying to be rude, but is this a serious comment, or are you being sarcastic? "Human supremacists", haha.
Also, why do you think someone who used an LLM to research would have the same level of knowledge and insight as someone who's been in the domain for a long time? That doesn't seem to hold up to any level of critical thinking.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
As an unfamiliar, I find it interesting how you specifically called out physics grads in the pre-LLM era. Is that just snark or is there some widespread truth / stereotype of that behavior?
Physics, and to a large degree pure mathematics, has attracted a critical mass of the personality type that needs to feel like the smartest person in the room in any given situation. It has given them a slightly notorious reputation in academia.
As a mathematician, this is far from my experience of actual professional mathematicians, because they encounter people much smarter than them quite often. Maybe more true among graduate students, however.
Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative
#129I work at an intersection of tech, applied research, and science. Something I’ve noticed in collaboration that does occur is an increased confidence in people outside their domains to say things with conviction. I have people who have limited experience with software pushing out layers and layers of abstracted code that’s fairly sophisticated but often misguided in intent who will say what they’re doing is correct, w…
I think there will be a rebalancing, and it might painful first for some. Confidence in LLM for highly complex tasks, very lots of context, most of all when this context isn’t in a single place or simply isn’t digitalised, will go down.
But right now, it’s still the shiny new toy
Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative
#130I work at an intersection of tech, applied research, and science. Something I’ve noticed in collaboration that does occur is an increased confidence in people outside their domains to say things with conviction. I have people who have limited experience with software pushing out layers and layers of abstracted code that’s fairly sophisticated but often misguided in intent who will say what they’re doing is correct, w…
Then there are the megacorporations of AI whose highly paid tech support folk happily copypasta your reported issues into Claude or Codex and paste its "solution" into an email as if you couldn't do that yourself and they don't even bother to check if the "solution" even works.