Moonshot serves Claude instead of Kimi and collects exchanges for model training
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Re: Moonshot serves Claude instead of Kimi and collects exchanges for model training
#2So?
Re: Moonshot serves Claude instead of Kimi and collects exchanges for model training
#3This is weird. I can't think of a better compliment that is simultaneously safer. They'll always trail on data generation then, no? So I can't see the point. Best case for moonshot they get to lie about benchmarks that are gamed regardless, is how I see it.
Re: Moonshot serves Claude instead of Kimi and collects exchanges for model training
#4There is absolutely nothing ethically wrong with other models using GPT and Claude for training. Heck, GPT-Sol even helped train GPT-Luna.
There also is nothing wrong with using customer data for training, since millions if not billions of other users benefit from it. Again, even the big players recognize its relevance and do it.
Re: Moonshot serves Claude instead of Kimi and collects exchanges for model training
#5Claude/OpenAI etc have taken and continue to take literally all data from the internet, printed books, image, audio, and video humans have created in all of existence without permission to train their models.
But when same AI company gets "distilled" or it's own AI-generated content used to train other models, it's suddenly immoral or illegal?
Re: Moonshot serves Claude instead of Kimi and collects exchanges for model training
#6Expected
Re: Moonshot serves Claude instead of Kimi and collects exchanges for model training
#7There is absolutely nothing ethically wrong with other models using GPT and Claude for training. Heck, GPT-Sol even helped train GPT-Luna. There also is nothing wrong with using customer data for training, since millions if not billions of other users benefit from it. Again, even the big players recognize its relevance and do it.
They are using stolen api keys and credentials.
Re: Moonshot serves Claude instead of Kimi and collects exchanges for model training
#8So how come super genius Fable and Mythos didn't stop them?
Re: Moonshot serves Claude instead of Kimi and collects exchanges for model training
#9We also get a glimpse into what those models are being used for.
>PLA-affiliated surveillance activity. One user that we assess was likely affiliated with the PLA used what they thought was Moonshot’s Kimi model to load surveillance data from a CCTV archive about a single targeted individual. The user asked Kimi to analyze the CCTV data to understand whether the tracked person was behaving abnormally. The CCTV data included video surveillance from hundreds of cameras in Chengdu, including cameras outside PLA facilities, institutes affiliated with the China Electronics Technology Group Corporation, and a major state-owned enterprise (SOE).
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