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Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Always found this odd too. Somehow it's bad enough to ban children from using it, but not adults.

Adults are assumed to be responsible for what they expose themselves to, unlike children. Mandatory warnings like for tobacco might be in order, however.

In fact, a 17-year-old is clueless while a person one year older isn't

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

#82

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Building this functionality into an operating system is an extremely slippery slope to even further centralized corporate and government authoritarian control of people doing what they want with the personal computing devices that they own and possess.

I think you may be misunderstanding a bit. There's no forced verification. It'd be more of an RFC that gives parents the ability to communicate their underage child is using the device without revealing or verifying any further information. Or do you suspect that giving any ground will cause the ID verification and centralized behavior?

I think the concern is a forced bit of functionality in all operating systems. It would quickly lead to a "and you need a license to sell your device so we can check that it can't bypass mandatory chuld-safety guards". Just like how some politicians are proposing mandatory licensing for releasing any AI model.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

#84

Good that we have Chinese models now, we can host anywhere and use as much as we like without age verification. Also, what's the reason banning minors? Is AI bad for mental health? If so, should companies also ban them to prevent burnout of their employees?

If you'd told me 15 years ago that people would be running freely-distributed software originating from research labs in China on computers self-hosted in their own house as an alternative to authoritarian overreach and control by the US in internet-based services, I'd have told you that you were smoking some good reefer.

The irony is that the authoritarian control hasn't gone away in China either, if anything it's even more advanced, the GFW and censorship regime there doesn't show any sign of letting up any time soon. Just today in my BBC news feed:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgyvk2djk4o

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

#85
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> I find is bizarre people think knowing a single boolean about 18 years of age provides anything You're hopelessly naive if you think this is all they get out of it.

You are naive if you think they can’t infer almost everything about median user already.

Why would they need to do ID checks then?

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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> I find is bizarre people think knowing a single boolean about 18 years of age provides anything You're hopelessly naive if you think this is all they get out of it.

You are naive if you think they can’t infer almost everything about median user already.

They certainly can't infer my full name and address from what I've used Claude for in the past, but if I'm forced to hand over my ID and I do, then they would.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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How does removing access to Clause equate to dehumanizing children?

It's dehumanizing because it feels like you're an incomplete human with no agency. When I was a teenager, there was nothing I hated more than obnoxious adults deciding for me what I could or couldn't do. I did literally everything in my power to circumvent them.

we are all incomplete human beings with limited agency. protecting minors us about understanding stages of development.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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The dehumanization of children and teenagers is getting out of hand.

It's not dehumanization, they just dread a future where kids can learn from 24/7 tutoring from an entity smart enough to solve Millenium problems instead of from some B student who's also teaching 20 other kids at a government propaganda factory.

who is "they"? and why is this a desirable outcome exactly?
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