So when will we get tier 1 debugging support in Visual Studio?
u dont debug rust mate
if it compiles it works
Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
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Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like the weather app makes a lot of sense from a corporate politics point of view. A 1mb weather app would have a significantly less impressive pie chart associated with it come "here are our improvements" presentation. Also if times get tough and you're told to reduce headcount by 10%, who do you want to get rid of. Sally who knows the USB driver end to end or Todd who wrote the bloated 1gb weather app. (Don'…
I think it's less about pie charts and more that weather apps can be very eyecandy-heavy. This sort of marketing works well for both consumers and board members.
1GB is space for almost half an hour of 5000kbps ("YouTube Premium") video. Just what kind of eye candy are we talking about here?
Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
#213What’s the story for Rust-C++ interoperability these days? That’s what kills adoption. Most C++ devs I know like the idea of Rust, but no one is going to go rewrite 30 years of working code. It needs to be something you can incorporate gradually.
ya our codebase is 30m lines of c++
Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
For me it was the inclusion in the kernel. That locks it in as here to stay
I thought it got pushed back out? Wasn't there a big drama about this and Linus weighed in? Linus is a wise operator at this point. I often see him come in like a hammer to bash down squabbling, but then he allows the situation to evolve once things quiet down. I only saw the hammer so I'm not sure what the current state is now.
Where did you hear that it got pushed back out? It's going strong as far as I can tell.
Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
#215Good news they adopted Rust as Tier-1 language. I hope their Weather app stop consuming more than 1GB RAM https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-s-built-in-Weather-...
Calling the Weather app an 'app' is doing all the Win32, WPF, WinForms and WinUI developers a huge disservice. It is essentially an entire Chromium instance around msn.com/weather.
Outlook, Teams, and other all show up as msedgewebview2.exe, so you also don't know which app is consuming gigs of memory doing nothing.
Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
#216Good news they adopted Rust as Tier-1 language. I hope their Weather app stop consuming more than 1GB RAM https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-s-built-in-Weather-...
It won't, that 1GB+ belongs to Microsoft's advertisers and their many video ads
Reminds me of how they allow OEMs to install bloatware through Windows update now. I believe LG did something that leads to various app installs when you connect their monitors via HDMI.
Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
#217Good news they adopted Rust as Tier-1 language. I hope their Weather app stop consuming more than 1GB RAM https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-s-built-in-Weather-...
Does it matter when one embeds web browser into their app?
Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
#218Good news they adopted Rust as Tier-1 language. I hope their Weather app stop consuming more than 1GB RAM https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-s-built-in-Weather-...
I feel like the weather app makes a lot of sense from a corporate politics point of view. A 1mb weather app would have a significantly less impressive pie chart associated with it come "here are our improvements" presentation. Also if times get tough and you're told to reduce headcount by 10%, who do you want to get rid of. Sally who knows the USB driver end to end or Todd who wrote the bloated 1gb weather app. (Don'…
The corporate dilemma between "I hired some less competent engineers and they're dragging the team down" and "I hired only highly capable engineers and now I have to give 10% of them bad reviews in stack ranking and later let them go"
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#220Link doesn’t work. What’s a Tier 1 language?
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