I've disabled the checkbox many months ago and it's still disabled today. EU citizen, not sure if that's relevant.
For me, "Improve the model for everyone" was "On", although I disabled a similar-sounding checkbox in the past (Germany).
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#62Lol, "Outrageous that the company that chose to ignore copyright holder claims, chose to ignore my checkbox of intent despite the implied pinky promise".
Ignoring the checkbox is an utterly offensive move, but repeatedly manipulating it contrary to stated consumer intent is a whole other level. I didn't know we were supposed to take 'frontier' literally in every sense of the word. I have now witnessed this myself after not believing this at first. Of course, screenshots etc. will hardly prove anything. This needs a proper third-party audit!
Oh they aren't a frontier on this. Undoing user configuration is well tested in Windows land.
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#63I also have not seen this, the checkbox has stayed off for me.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
The vast majority of OpenAI users don’t follow the industry drama and have no idea how terrible the company is. They’ve been really good at getting good press coverage, with journalists who will repeat the company narrative. Even when critical it is very often framed within the narrative they established
what makes the company so terrible?
So, the way this orange site works is that if anyone makes a reference to whatever sort of inside baseball concern ("industry drama"), we're all supposed to know what they're talking about.
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#65Lol, "Outrageous that the company that chose to ignore copyright holder claims, chose to ignore my checkbox of intent despite the implied pinky promise".
Ignoring the checkbox is an utterly offensive move, but repeatedly manipulating it contrary to stated consumer intent is a whole other level. I didn't know we were supposed to take 'frontier' literally in every sense of the word. I have now witnessed this myself after not believing this at first. Of course, screenshots etc. will hardly prove anything. This needs a proper third-party audit!
> Ignoring the checkbox is an utterly offensive move, but repeatedly manipulating it contrary to stated consumer intent is a whole other level.
I'm not sure why the second one is worse than the first one.
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#66I've disabled the checkbox many months ago and it's still disabled today. EU citizen, not sure if that's relevant.
Same here.
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#67Based on their behavior over the past few years, why would you assume that checkbox even does anything at all?
Levent Alpöge 'additionally' proved OpenAI steals your findings & IP and plays dirty! Ironically he proved two major findings in Navier Strokes and that unethical American companies violate laws, steal your breakthrough findings & IP and then threaten you if you dare to challenge them. This is making the status-quo so bad for any of us working on serious capacity. My client's don't trust ChatGPT/Claude anymore and pr…
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#68Nice try, Dario.
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#69Note: Turning off that checkbox is not enough. You also need to fill out the "Do not train on my content" request here:
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#70If you have more than one account, you should suspect this was your own confusion. Users constantly report errors like this that are really just them being confused by something, perhaps a bad UI that really is to blame.