Can confirm. I turned off mine last week when I started using it again for Astra. Checked this morning and voila, it was on.
I went ahead and uninstalled the app. Won't be renewing.
Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
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Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#32There's also this setting here which I have set to 'Do not train on my content' even though I trust it the same as the 'allow training' one... https://privacy.openai.com/policies/en/?modal=take-control
Thx for the link, hadn't seen this one, submitted also
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#33Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
what competitor? the x20 Max plan for Claude gives you way lover limits.
Well, it’s a tradeoff. What do you prefer? To go with the service provider known to be shady but gives you lots of free stuff or the one that might be less shady and gives you less free stuff?
Anthropic is shady too my guy. Claude Code will frequently re-ask you to turn on data sharing even after you've said no, it's dark patterned like a task approval, and once you turn it on it's harder to turn off than OAI makes it.
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#35If you document it properly then this basically destroys any legal claim they can make about that checkbox.
Out of curiosity, how one is supposed to "document it properly"?
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#36I've done the formal opt-out process - like "Make a privacy request" where you fill out a form.
Not sure if that's region specific or something though.
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#37Based on their behavior over the past few years, why would you assume that checkbox even does anything at all?
The vast majority of OpenAI users don’t follow the industry drama and have no idea how terrible the company is. They’ve been really good at getting good press coverage, with journalists who will repeat the company narrative. Even when critical it is very often framed within the narrative they established
what makes the company so terrible?
Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#38Weird, I'm the opposite. I don't recall ever setting mine and I just checked and it was set to "disallow training".
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, it’s a tradeoff. What do you prefer? To go with the service provider known to be shady but gives you lots of free stuff or the one that might be less shady and gives you less free stuff?
Anthropic is shady too my guy. Claude Code will frequently re-ask you to turn on data sharing even after you've said no, it's dark patterned like a task approval, and once you turn it on it's harder to turn off than OAI makes it.
They did say "less shady" but at this point Anthropic and OpenAI are approaching parity.
Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#40I've disabled the checkbox many months ago and it's still disabled today. EU citizen, not sure if that's relevant.
same, I'm a paying user in the US