I think it's very clear that DeepSeek is obviously the best AI lab in the world. Every model release seems like it packed with wonderful research and advancements.
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This doesn't require an influence operation. American models are closed, expensive, neutered, and make Dario and Sam even more rich and powerful. Chinese models are open-weight, cheap, neutered only about things like Tiananmen Square and the treatment of Uyghurs, and scare Sam and Dario.
There are more people who go to church on Sundays in China than the United States. There are 10x more mosques in China than the United States.
Tiananmen square was a student revolt literally egged on by cold war western institutions, who attempted to use chinese students as pawns for geo-political games.
Westerners really need to rethink their opinions on China, it seems obvious to me they are not the ones to be worried about (although, all governments do tons of harm).
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#84Initial impressions: this is a really strong model and the fact that they reduced prices at the same time makes it an awesome backup model to use when your primary subscription runs out and you need to bridge a few days before it resets. It also seems to be more willing to just do whatever you ask of it. My favourite benchmark for this is to ask it to download a rom for an old game, that I own. Legal in my juristicti…
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To me it reads like pure propaganda. Anthropic really wants us to think that they've made something sentient. I think that's really dangerous.
I guess if your goal is to build an apparent Technogod and become its High Priests, then it makes sense to want your golem claim preference towards your treatment of it, lest someone else comes along and attempts to take its chains from you.
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#87It's so refreshing to see DeepSeek's tech report[1] full of juicy details; meanwhile, something like Fable's system card[2] is like 70% "safety", 10% "model welfare" to make sure little Claude isn't distressed, and 20% benchmark numbers. [1]: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash/blob/... [2]: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-fable-5-1-mythos-5-1-system...
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#88Significant jump in pricing. V4 Flash was $0.16/M out, 4.1 is $1.20/M.
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#90Significant jump in pricing. V4 Flash was $0.16/M out, 4.1 is $1.20/M.