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The UN challenges five centuries of cartography

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Re: The UN challenges five centuries of cartography

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Since we are moving away from print and towards screens, shouldn't we be just using actual globes?

Yes. Specially, touch enabled screens with dynamically rendered graphics.

The Google Maps app on my iPhone at one point years ago switched to having a globe as its base, like Google Earth. It was great.

Then Google switched it back to Mercator. But you can scroll infinitely to the left or right, so its base is actually now “Mercator rolled into a tube.” Somehow that’s even worse!

Re: The UN challenges five centuries of cartography

#112

It's kind of funny how the colonial convenience of having the 0 longitude line pass through Greenwich, UK ends up making Africa the most prominent place on the world map, since the centerpoint (0,0) is just off the African coast. This was true with Mercator as well, but Equal Earth emphasizes just how huge the African continent actually is.

The location of the 0 longitude line has less to do with the British colonial empire as such, and more to do with the fact that the British were the first people on Earth to invent a way of measuring longitude at sea accurately (John Harrison's famous marine chronometer). Of course these are ultimately related facts - the same package of technology that allowed the British to produce people like John Harrison who were capable of innovating a marine chronometer also allowed them to produce ocean-going ships that could conquer a global maritime colonial empire (and that had a use for marine chronometers).

There was in fact a rival 0 longitude line passing through Paris, France, that the French used for many years before standardizing on the British system; although this system would equally have resulted in the 0,0 point being somewhere in the ocean west of the African coast.

Re: The UN challenges five centuries of cartography

#114

It's kind of funny how the colonial convenience of having the 0 longitude line pass through Greenwich, UK ends up making Africa the most prominent place on the world map, since the centerpoint (0,0) is just off the African coast. This was true with Mercator as well, but Equal Earth emphasizes just how huge the African continent actually is.

In an alternate reality, the prime meridian could have been chosen to pass through Florence, making 180° and the edges of the world map pass cleanly through the Bering Strait.

Re: The UN challenges five centuries of cartography

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_meridians The Washington meridians are four meridians that were used as prime meridians in the United States which pass through Washington, D.C.

This is the source of my favorite border dispute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Tahoe#Interstate_boundary... In summary there is a border dispute between California and Nevada, It was exacerbated by some surveying errors but the real problem appears to be the definitions of the sate borders, California was defined using one method(120 degrees longitude west of Greenwich) and Nevada was defined using another meth…

Semi-related, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Times_at_the_El_Royale is a great movie.

Re: The UN challenges five centuries of cartography

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Somebody who does not represent anybody "agreed" - not us.

I'm Canadian. Canada represents me. They voted on this. That's how the world works. Sometimes my government is not the one I voted for and my interests are not represented, or sometimes my interests are not the majority in my country. That's life. No one is forcing you to use the new map, you can keep your old map. No one will arrest you for it. Enjoy!

By when is Canada going to be using the new map?

Re: The UN challenges five centuries of cartography

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The UN does not dictate which map you or your government or your school or Google uses.

I didn’t say it did, I said the UN is not a democratic body. He said the world decided. What is your problem?

You didn’t in fact use the word democratic at all. You used the word “represent”.

Re: The UN challenges five centuries of cartography

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Robinson projection is a good enough, boring compromise, if the UN was interested in that.

Why would the world feel the need to compromise when all UN countries, except for one agree on the projection. The solution is simply to ignore the minority, especially if it has a government that itself has always refused to compromise with others.

When are all these countries planning to switch over to the new map?
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