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Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by spartanatreyu »

ksec wrote: post #469

I think the Duo looks great. And from the few hands on video I have seen I think the Apple presentation actually doesn't do it justice. There is no crease at all! [1] On the note on this year's keynote. I can't be the only one who feels the whole vibe of the keynote changed. This isn't Tim Cook style keynote and John Ternus wasted no time to try and changed a few things already. I can't wait for John to further shake…

> I think the Duo looks great.

I could not disagree more.

There are 3 ways to fold a phone:

1) The trifold: A phone that folds out into a tablet. (e.g. https://consumer.huawei.com/my/phones/mate-xt-ultimate-desig...)

2) The clam shell: a phone that folds down into a more compact form. (e.g. https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/samsung-galaxy-z-flip8-5g...)

3) The book: an awkwardly squashed phone that folds out into two awkwardly squashed phones taped together. (e.g. https://news.microsoft.com/surfaceduo/)

The trifold fits in your pocket.

The clamshell fits in small pockets (making it popular for women).

The book in a pocket is just uncomfortable (assuming it fits in at all).

They looked at all the folding phone formats and went with the worst possible one: the one that you can't fit in your pocket comfortably.

Further more, they looked at the worst book fold and decided to associate themselves with it by stealing its name, The S̶u̶r̶f̶a̶c̶e̶ Apple Duo: https://news.microsoft.com/surfaceduo/

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Apple releasing this is exactly what it looks like when there's no one helming the wheel.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by 8note »

pier25 wrote: post #353

Foldables seem like Homer's car to me. It's a worse phone and a worse tablet all in one. For reference: https://media.wired.com/photos/593252a1edfced5820d0fa07/3:2/...

theyre actually quite nice, and the added redudancy that you still have a perfectly working phone when one of the screens breaks is great.

the phone-ness is exactly the same, but i dont think anyone actually needs a full tablet, but an unfolded screen is just right for say, reading a diff on the bus.

I was much more impressed by the phone->tablet fold than i was expecting to be.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by djfergus »

I hope the tri—fold format catches on (Huawei mate xt 1&2, Samsung z trifold).

If I’m going to carry around an insanely fragile and expensive device I want to maximise screen area and aspect ratio.

Re: iPhone Duo

#825

Post by 8note »

thesuitonym wrote: post #60

We keep putting more powerful chips into phones, and giving them bigger screens, but we never turn them into useful computers. Why is this?

abuse over a monopoly is the reason. probably you already knew that though?

if they made it a useful computer, they couldnt charge 30% of revenue to their app store customers

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by nonfamous »

hbarka wrote: post #591

There’s a standard for paper sizes called the ISO 216 international standard, aka A-series paper sizes. You may be familiar with it outside of the American 8.5”x11” letter size. The simplicity, for example, where an A3 sheet is exactly twice the area of A4. One A3 sheet folded in half becomes two A4 sheets. This is intentional: when you fold or divide an A-series sheet exactly in half, the resulting sheets have the s…

Take a sheet of A4 paper. Fold it in half. Fold it in half again. That’s about the size of the Duo inner screen (a little larger actually, A6 is about 13% smaller than the Duo screen).

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by spartanatreyu »

nvarsj wrote: post #642

What's up with all the negativity? Apple is finally doing something radical (for them) again with the iPhone, their bread and butter. And I'm all here for it. 10 years of the same form factor was getting old. I'm gonna buy this on release, easiest decision ever.

> What's up with all the negativity?

It's the horrible form factor.

I listed the 3 ways to make a folding phone (with examples) in my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49636355

If they had chose either of the other two folding formats, and reduced the amount of screen they cut off in the corners, they probably would have had gold on their hands and shifted the market towards foldables.

Instead, they chose the bad one.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by randycupertino »

MPSimmons wrote: post #235

Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them? I don't mind folding. I think it's cool, and a nice way to get a useful space. But I have big hands, and I can't use my iphone 17 now without two hands. This is even wider before unfolding. Who wants bigger phones? Who is like, "damn I wish I had a tablet that I could fold up and still barely fit in my pocket"? I want smaller phones. The…

> Who wants bigger phones? Who is like, "damn I wish I had a tablet that I could fold up and still barely fit in my pocket"?

I literally just got 7 pairs of pants tailored with bigger pockets so they could hold my freaking phone without it falling out all the time. I would love a smaller more petite phone.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by killingtime74 »

MPSimmons wrote: post #235

Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them? I don't mind folding. I think it's cool, and a nice way to get a useful space. But I have big hands, and I can't use my iphone 17 now without two hands. This is even wider before unfolding. Who wants bigger phones? Who is like, "damn I wish I had a tablet that I could fold up and still barely fit in my pocket"? I want smaller phones. The…

If everybody thought like you they wouldn't have discontinued the iPhone mini because nobody bought it.

There's also plenty of small Android phones.

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