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Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by torginus »

seanalltogether wrote: post #641
anonu wrote: post #595

As a recent Android foldable phone owner (Google Pixel), I'm excited that the Duo will get developers to actually design apps for foldables. Right now, some apps don't work at all and others are just stretched. I feel a better use of the screen space is around the corner for both Android foldable and Duo users.

> "A large fraction of the flaws in software development are due to programmers not fully understanding all the possible states their code may execute in." This is a quote from John Carmack and should sit over every developers monitor. At the same time, OS designers should be doing everything in their power to reduce the number of states a developer has to think about.

Like one of the things I hate about frontend development - and admire people who do this professionally - is the stupid and arbitrary rules browsers impose on you.

'You may only play audio if such and such conditions are met. However these are different based on browser and platform. Good luck making a solution fitting all these.'

'The browser might lie about what's the available screen estate is, but only sometimes'

'There is a perfect API for what you wanna do, however it's not in Safari'

And a testament on how obscure and arcane knowledge is on doing things right is that I thought there would be some npm packages that do these things for me, but no - you have to hunt around for solutions and fix things yourself.

And LLMs are completely useless and confidently wrong mostly about everything involving this.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by c0decracker »

One thing I always wondered about Apple specifically is how do they actually coordinate so many layers of integration -- materials, hardware of various kinds, manufacturing, software. How is that done on like day-to-day basis?

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by julianlam »

hbarka wrote: post #610

There’s a standard for paper sizes called the ISO 216 international standard, aka A-series paper sizes. You may be familiar with it outside of the American 8.5”x11” letter size. The simplicity, for example, where an A3 sheet is exactly twice the area of A4. One A3 sheet folded in half becomes two A4 sheets. This is intentional: when you fold or divide an A-series sheet exactly in half, the resulting sheets have the s…

The way this comment was going I was pleasantly surprised to see that the iPhone Duo adhered to the ISO standard.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by nsonha »

hbarka wrote: post #610

There’s a standard for paper sizes called the ISO 216 international standard, aka A-series paper sizes. You may be familiar with it outside of the American 8.5”x11” letter size. The simplicity, for example, where an A3 sheet is exactly twice the area of A4. One A3 sheet folded in half becomes two A4 sheets. This is intentional: when you fold or divide an A-series sheet exactly in half, the resulting sheets have the s…

sounds useless and ridiculous

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by butterisgood »

IFF I can replace some of what I almost never use my iPad for with this, it _might_ be worth that price tag.

I'm on the fence! I do like a bigger but not too big screen for movies on planes etc.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by spartanatreyu »

ksec wrote: post #485

I think the Duo looks great. And from the few hands on video I have seen I think the Apple presentation actually doesn't do it justice. There is no crease at all! [1] On the note on this year's keynote. I can't be the only one who feels the whole vibe of the keynote changed. This isn't Tim Cook style keynote and John Ternus wasted no time to try and changed a few things already. I can't wait for John to further shake…

> I think the Duo looks great.

I could not disagree more.

There are 3 ways to fold a phone:

1) The trifold: A phone that folds out into a tablet. (e.g. https://consumer.huawei.com/my/phones/mate-xt-ultimate-desig...)

2) The clam shell: a phone that folds down into a more compact form. (e.g. https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/samsung-galaxy-z-flip8-5g...)

3) The book: an awkwardly squashed phone that folds out into two awkwardly squashed phones taped together. (e.g. https://news.microsoft.com/surfaceduo/)

The trifold fits in your pocket.

The clamshell fits in small pockets (making it popular for women).

The book in a pocket is just uncomfortable (assuming it fits in at all).

They looked at all the folding phone formats and went with the worst possible one: the one that you can't fit in your pocket comfortably.

Further more, they looked at the worst book fold and decided to associate themselves with it by stealing its name, The S̶u̶r̶f̶a̶c̶e̶ Apple Duo: https://news.microsoft.com/surfaceduo/

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Apple releasing this is exactly what it looks like when there's no one helming the wheel.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by 8note »

pier25 wrote: post #362

Foldables seem like Homer's car to me. It's a worse phone and a worse tablet all in one. For reference: https://media.wired.com/photos/593252a1edfced5820d0fa07/3:2/...

theyre actually quite nice, and the added redudancy that you still have a perfectly working phone when one of the screens breaks is great.

the phone-ness is exactly the same, but i dont think anyone actually needs a full tablet, but an unfolded screen is just right for say, reading a diff on the bus.

I was much more impressed by the phone->tablet fold than i was expecting to be.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by djfergus »

I hope the tri—fold format catches on (Huawei mate xt 1&2, Samsung z trifold).

If I’m going to carry around an insanely fragile and expensive device I want to maximise screen area and aspect ratio.

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