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Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by halJordan »

SirMaster wrote: post #123
runjake wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on supply chain leaks, it's pretty safe to assume 12 GB memory with up to 100GB/sec memory bandwidth at best. The A19 Pro had 12 GB and was around 77GB/sec memory bandwidth for reference. If I was a betting man, I'd say the memory bandwidth on the A20 Pro is the same.

But they said the memory bandwidth was double the previous generation.

And here we are back to the crux. Sure would be nice if the released material was verifiable instead of "trust me shitstick"

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by halJordan »

dgellow wrote: post #186
eagerpace wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I am buying a phone to use for the next 3 years and want to buy it based on the most important property of compute devices right now. I couldn't care less about the camera and the 13 random metrics that all look the same as every other camera announcement. I will happily take 96GB of RAM in my phone (and I know what that means) and would gladly allow you to make it 1.2mm thicker in the process.

You want a 96GB RAM phone and only plan to keep it 3 years? I cannot fathom the way some of you live. I have an iPhone SE from 2022 that I don’t expect to get rid of before at least 2-3 more years, meaning it would have been in use for 6-7y at minimum. And it’s perfectly comfortable to use, I’m not forcing myself in any way to keep it longer. And you’re talking about wanting a ridiculously expensive phone and only ha…

People sued apple for selling a device with no mention of ram and then apple released the next gen saying "this has more ram, you need to upgrade to it to use the features we advertised for last gen."

How about avoiding that scenario again? Is that a good enough reason? Being a diligent, informed consumer?

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by theplumber »

Ok so another “better” smartphone. To me it is very hard to get excited about the new smartphones. It really seems they have nothing new. I mean you have Apple Pay on any old iPhone and the software is more or less the same, the battery more or less the same…there is really nothing new. I am going to get a 12k or 16k camera to solve the “camera” issue and that would be it to avoid buying better iPhones every x years.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by JK-Swizzle »

usefulcat wrote: post #169
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I doubt any phone battery is lasting 5+ years. Just coming up to five years on mine and it is still at 87% capacity.

iPhone 11 coming up on 7 years old in December, still at ~85% capacity. Really it mostly depends on how heavily you use it, and maybe to a lesser extent charging habits (charging slowly, not charging to 100%, etc).

I hear you, but the convenience of 30W charging is very hard to give up. The only downside is it damages the battery, which makes it harder to give up, which damages the battery more.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by dijit »

Jtsummers wrote: post #190
dijit wrote: post #179

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I'm not sure I understand how you think the mini is in a case from those photos. Maybe because it's the dark version of the phone you can barely make out the shiny apple logo, but it's there, you can see the metal edge of the phone. It's not in a case.. obviously, that would be a stupid comparison.

Fair, zooming in I guess I can see that. You may want to correct the label on the photo though, it shares dimensions with the 5 but you've clearly photographed an SE (original, it turns out, which was part of my confusion since you switched at some point from talking about the 2nd gen to the 1st gen) not an iPhone 5.

No, I was comparing the size difference of the 5 (and lineage) to the 6 (by way of case) and Mini.

"SE" is a nondescript product line and the only physical differences are the tone of the chassis and a stamp; it's a fair representation of the size of a 5.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by josephg »

dgellow wrote: post #186
eagerpace wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I am buying a phone to use for the next 3 years and want to buy it based on the most important property of compute devices right now. I couldn't care less about the camera and the 13 random metrics that all look the same as every other camera announcement. I will happily take 96GB of RAM in my phone (and I know what that means) and would gladly allow you to make it 1.2mm thicker in the process.

You want a 96GB RAM phone and only plan to keep it 3 years? I cannot fathom the way some of you live. I have an iPhone SE from 2022 that I don’t expect to get rid of before at least 2-3 more years, meaning it would have been in use for 6-7y at minimum. And it’s perfectly comfortable to use, I’m not forcing myself in any way to keep it longer. And you’re talking about wanting a ridiculously expensive phone and only ha…

I couldn’t agree more. I’m typing this on an iPhone 12, bought new 6 years ago. My phone still feels snappy. And it gets me through a whole day with 60%+ battery remaining. The only real complaint I have is that I only have the 64gb model. I need to delete things every time a software update comes out because of how bloated modern software has become. But the hardware is fantastic.

I have no idea how much ram my phone has. So long as apps run well, why would I care?

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by jq-r »

ksec wrote: post #60

I am actually quite excited on this iPhone 18 Pro. Seems to pack a a lot of exciting stuff. 2nm A20 Pro, C2. I wish they have N2 but I guess not. 2nd Generation Vapour Chamber. I thought I would have to wait another generation because Apple like to use new product features for two generation before moving on. And it seems this Vapour Chamber along with other heat desperation features are much better built. Much bette…

I don’t understand why the Max version doesn’t have C2. Maybe supply constraints but I doubt it.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by sheepybloke »

quinncom wrote: post #66

I love that it has a feature to prove images came from the real world: > Users can now prove the authenticity of a photo taken on iPhone 18 Pro models with Apple Reference Image, powered by the new sensor in the Main camera that can sign every pixel it sees. When a photo is taken in the new Reference mode, the camera captures signed sensor data that Private Cloud Compute develops into an unalterable reference image.5…

On the opposite side, this read to me like there was so much image processing going on in the background and off device that they felt like they needed to prove that there was a real image backing the creation, and that it was not all AI. It really begs the question of what the extent is of image processing.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by tempest_ »

spacebanana7 wrote: post #144
infecto wrote: post #113

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Hyperbole if I have ever read it. Lots of other products released I don’t think the highlight was the iPhone 18.

And even then the price of the phone ex memory is staying stable. Even Apple can’t eat hundreds of dollars in extra cost per phone in competition with AI memory consumption.

Why would they?

Every one else is raising prices at so they will too.

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