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Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by quentindanjou »

runjake wrote: post #109
millipede wrote: post #102

The things we need to know most, RAM and Memory Bandwidth, are unfortunately missing from the release. Their absence doesn't bode well.

Based on supply chain leaks, it's pretty safe to assume 12 GB memory with up to 100GB/sec memory bandwidth at best. The A19 Pro had 12 GB and was around 77GB/sec memory bandwidth for reference. If I was a betting man, I'd say the memory bandwidth on the A20 Pro is the same.

If I didn't dream it, I think their presentation said something like 50% increase so you should be quite right probably around ~110GB/sec

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by carstn »

runjake wrote: post #109
millipede wrote: post #102

The things we need to know most, RAM and Memory Bandwidth, are unfortunately missing from the release. Their absence doesn't bode well.

Based on supply chain leaks, it's pretty safe to assume 12 GB memory with up to 100GB/sec memory bandwidth at best. The A19 Pro had 12 GB and was around 77GB/sec memory bandwidth for reference. If I was a betting man, I'd say the memory bandwidth on the A20 Pro is the same.

Rumors suggested a wider memory bus on A20 Pro.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by SirMaster »

runjake wrote: post #109
millipede wrote: post #102

The things we need to know most, RAM and Memory Bandwidth, are unfortunately missing from the release. Their absence doesn't bode well.

Based on supply chain leaks, it's pretty safe to assume 12 GB memory with up to 100GB/sec memory bandwidth at best. The A19 Pro had 12 GB and was around 77GB/sec memory bandwidth for reference. If I was a betting man, I'd say the memory bandwidth on the A20 Pro is the same.

But they said the memory bandwidth was double the previous generation.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by whatever1 »

quinncom wrote: post #66

I love that it has a feature to prove images came from the real world: > Users can now prove the authenticity of a photo taken on iPhone 18 Pro models with Apple Reference Image, powered by the new sensor in the Main camera that can sign every pixel it sees. When a photo is taken in the new Reference mode, the camera captures signed sensor data that Private Cloud Compute develops into an unalterable reference image.5…

I wish next year for videos too.

We really need it for journalism. Otherwise we will not know what is real and what fabricated with ai.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

JK-Swizzle wrote: post #87
Merad wrote: post #27

> eSIM-only models deliver up to 36 hours of video playback on iPhone 18 Pro and up to 45 hours of video playback on iPhone 18 Pro Max. That might convince me to upgrade. Not because I care about watching video for two days straight, but hopefully it means the battery is large enough that it'll last 5+ years before battery degradation becomes annoying.

I doubt any phone battery is lasting 5+ years. But I can say modern iPhones are pretty easy to swap the battery on. They designed it so the back plate gets removed to open the phone rather than the screen. No more risk of cracking the display.

>I doubt any phone battery is lasting 5+ years.

Just coming up to five years on mine and it is still at 87% capacity.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by crtified »

epistasis wrote: post #81
throw1234567891 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you need a new phone. Or a faster internet connection?

No I need better phone app developers. The fastest phone has the same issues. New phones are just as sluggish. And, it's a phone , there's not going to be fast networks everywhere, and a whole generation of poor developers was raised to believe that the network was always present and always fast. And on the iOS side, Tahoe inserts all sorts of overdone, ridiculous animations that slow down phone interaction, but dela…

We are up to the iphone 18 now. The iphone is said to be about 50% of Apple's revenue since 2012. Regardless of app developer quality, it is quite literally Apple's now-well-honed job to ensure that enough people want to buy next year's model, by various types of forced obsolescence. Indirectly, this means that the durably snappy and non-sluggish experience you're forever wanting can never actually happen. 'Forever wanting it' is an essential part of the business design here!

In this system. Of 'smartphones', where a small handful of corporate masters - who also happen to (now!) be a big share of the world's largest and most profitable corporations - now own over half of the computing world that we love, following their whirlwind 20-year takeover of it.

"No I need better phone app developers." - Hmmm. Commiserations. The trend of developer quality (and/or it's inverse - e.g. system complexity and overheads) has been fairly constant since the term 'developer' became mainstream parlance, and you won't need me to point out what effect AI coding agents have had upon the doorway-to-entry.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by luqtas »

WarmWash wrote: post #117
nobleach wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the most advanced camera in an iPhone I mean, I can't remember the last time they DIDN'T say that. Variable aperture is kinda cool I guess. 256Gigs of storage basically means everyone's going to have to upgrade their iCloud storage monthly spend just to back this thing up. I've stopped sending my camera roll to iCloud just to save on space.

Camera quality actually topped out a decade ago or so, and now it's become all post-processing trends that define "best". Not unlike the "Best jacket of the season" being the one that is most fashionable as opposed to the most functional.

soon we'll have a like amount predictor connected with your personal assistant talking with your social media

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by devilsdata »

epistasis wrote: post #81
throw1234567891 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you need a new phone. Or a faster internet connection?

No I need better phone app developers. The fastest phone has the same issues. New phones are just as sluggish. And, it's a phone , there's not going to be fast networks everywhere, and a whole generation of poor developers was raised to believe that the network was always present and always fast. And on the iOS side, Tahoe inserts all sorts of overdone, ridiculous animations that slow down phone interaction, but dela…

Not that you aren't correct, but Tahoe is a MacOS release, not iOS. I assume you mean iOS 18 (the version before iOS 26)?

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by ivm »

ksec wrote: post #60

I am actually quite excited on this iPhone 18 Pro. Seems to pack a a lot of exciting stuff. 2nm A20 Pro, C2. I wish they have N2 but I guess not. 2nd Generation Vapour Chamber. I thought I would have to wait another generation because Apple like to use new product features for two generation before moving on. And it seems this Vapour Chamber along with other heat desperation features are much better built. Much bette…

> The only thing that need radical change is iOS.

Please, not again.

– Sincerely yours mobile developer

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by kingkongjaffa »

WarmWash wrote: post #117
nobleach wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the most advanced camera in an iPhone I mean, I can't remember the last time they DIDN'T say that. Variable aperture is kinda cool I guess. 256Gigs of storage basically means everyone's going to have to upgrade their iCloud storage monthly spend just to back this thing up. I've stopped sending my camera roll to iCloud just to save on space.

Camera quality actually topped out a decade ago or so, and now it's become all post-processing trends that define "best". Not unlike the "Best jacket of the season" being the one that is most fashionable as opposed to the most functional.

You say that, but I've bought the non-pro iphones the last few generations (13, 15 currently) and consistently wanted a better camera, so this upgrade cycle I'll probably shell out for the 18 pro.
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