Already a reality in mainland China, which is a country with very little street crime, grafitti, vandalism etc.
Flock Wants a Closely Surveilled World with No Exit
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#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
> users have a private relationship with Google where they elect to let Google track them and retain their information Elect to is a bit strong here. Acquiesce to , maybe, or perhaps suffer to .
You elect to buy an Android and not an Apple I suppose.
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#2631. An erase-me feature if they gained over say some X unique/active users.
2. Disclose to their best legal abilities on warrants served in the countries that allow such disclosure. Allow for strong whistle blower protection if warrantless wiretapping becomes a thing.
Re: Flock Wants a Closely Surveilled World with No Exit
#264It's pretty clear to be that governments shouldn't be able to 'subcontract' their way out of the limits placed on them via the constitution. Thankfully the supreme court seems to agree here in two ways: 1) Just because a third party (Google in Chatrie case but Flock here) collects the data and the government requests it from them, doesn't mean that that isn't a 'search' which requires a warrant ("obtaining someone's…
A "dragnet" is when you set up police checkpoints everywhere and essentially put entire cities under watch to find a fugitive. This happened in Boston after the bombings.
"Dragnets" are illegal except in extreme circumstances (like a bombing).
Flock is a "dragnet on demand." You have a digital dragnet in place not just in one city but potentially in every city, and with a single search can pull the results of the dragnet on anyone for any reason.
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#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
I never thought of UK as a police state. How about Netherlands w a similar program? Non watchlist plates are kept for 28 days compared to most flock implementations that keep for 7 https://www.politie.nl/informatie/waar-staan-anpr-cameras.ht...
Uk has been widely know as a budding police state for years. V for Vendetta was written in the 80s partially as a commentary on the British states turn towards a police state. This poster is from 2002: https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/po...
>>We have the name and address of everyone in the UK without a TV license. Inspectors on on their way now to your home to investigate.
Also lookup “TV detector vans” which is another hilarious bit of the theatre of the UK police state
Seeing that as someone visiting the UK on vacation was a real eye opener, like what the heck kind of police state is this
Re: Flock Wants a Closely Surveilled World with No Exit
#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
Flock is YC. This is being done by investors for ads. Somr govts are cutting deals, those that aren’t are banning them. Never trust HN articles or high karma accts
Checks. I didn’t believe it at first, because I’ve always considered YC, in spite of its flaws, to be politically astute.
Re: Flock Wants a Closely Surveilled World with No Exit
#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the UK overall, 64% of the population support police use of facial recognition technology to some degree and only 11% were opposed to its use [1]. The survey also looks at support for different szenarios, but overall many generally did not oppose it, while in the US 47% oppose the use of flock cameras [2]. [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-attitudes-... [2] https://www.reuters.com/legal/governm…
The Flock stat is interesting because 46% of Americans believe widespread use of facial recognition would be a good thing (27% unsure). Maybe people oppose Flock because it's not going far enough! Or maybe there is a coordinated campaign against a license plate reader for some weird reason https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2022/03/17/public-more-...
Re: Flock Wants a Closely Surveilled World with No Exit
#268Already a reality in mainland China, which is a country with very little street crime, grafitti, vandalism etc.
Re: Flock Wants a Closely Surveilled World with No Exit
#269Perhaps they could try a different market. The UK seems more amicable to such things.